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Sidecar or other balancing options

I figured I would post in this subforum since I think I'd get the best responses. My dad owns a (1983 BMW R100RT). He has had hip, knee, and shoulder surgery all within the last 5 years or so. Everything works fine but he's a little concerned about safety. He knows how to ride but just wants to have that extra precaution of balance being taken care of so he was wondering what options he has.
So far we think a sidecar would be the best solution but have no clue where to buy 1. I doubt there's a large market for these, would this be a custom job? Where can we start looking? He probably won't have any passengers, it's purely a balance/safety issue.
He had an idea I didn't really like: converting it to a 3-wheeler or tryke. I'm not even sure if this is doable but I'll throw it out there. Anyone have any opinions about this idea? Would have to be custom for sure and probably expensive.
Any other suggestions are appreciated but he likes this particular bike and wouldn't want to outright buy a 3 wheeler. Any feedback is appreciated.
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A sidecar would be cool on that bike. Maybe one off of a Ural could be modified to work? The Urals are pretty much Russian BMW clones, right?
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A sidecar would be cool on that bike. Maybe one off of a Ural could be modified to work? The Urals are pretty much Russian BMW clones, right?
It is my understanding, the sidecar on a Ural is actually one with the rest of the chassis.

What ever the case, side car before trike!


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It is my understanding, the sidecar on a Ural is actually one with the rest of the chassis.

What ever the case, side car before trike!


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That's right, the Urals are 2 wheel drive. And yes, sidecar before trike for sure.
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There is plenty of sidecar info out there . You can buy a bolt on kit with braces and be ready to go . Keep in mind its best to use an Earls style fork or a triple that has about a 5 degree rake for stability . Its not that hard to setup a hack , look on Ebay or the forums. A Ural or Dneper will work fine , but are heavy . There are few fiberglass ones out there also. Try Motorvation or EML .

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Go with a sidecar. They're a blast. I have a friend that put one on an old Honda. Everyone either wants to ride it or at least get a ride in it. Pretty easy to attach too. It was all bolt on. His was kind of a universal fit deal. Good luck.

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Sounds like I will def push the sidecar idea. I'll have to do some better searching, the ones I found are around the 5K range in pricing, hopefully something interesting pops up soon
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Last wekend at the BMW swapmeet in Pecotonica a sidecar (i think a velorex) was forsale with the correct mounting brackets for his bike. The guy said he would take 750. I think he was from des moines ia.
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There are a lot of products out there for people with disabilities, amputees, etc. You just have to look around. Do some Google searches.

Here's a start.
http://www.adaptivemotorcycles.com/ (their home page is pretty weak)
http://www.adaptivemotorcycles.com/pg2.html
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I would recommend going sidecar instead of 3 wheeler. I would also recommend that your Dad take the sidecar training. The MSF has a special sidecar course that will really help him transition from being a 2 wheel rider to a competant Hack rider.
There is a whole group of sidecar guys in the area. There was an oldtimer named Zeke who would give the MSF course one on one. I don't know if he's still doing it but I know the sidecar group is still kicking...First place I'd check for more info would be your favorite BMW dealer and the Chicago Region BMW Owners may be very helpful too. Also, contact the South Suburban A.B.A.T.E Chapter. Alot of the sidecar guys were active in that chapter and they may be able to point you in the right direction. Don't be shy...Sidecar guys are VERY enthusiastic and Love getting newbies involved in sidecars!
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