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Great letter by the guy in Willmette who shot the burgler in the trib and suntimes

Why I used a gun to defend my family and my home
Wilmette man explains his drastic actions


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By Hale DeMar
Hale DeMar lives in Wilmette
Published January 22, 2004

Many of us have experienced a sense of violation upon returning to our homes, only to find that someone has been there. Someone has trespassed in our bedrooms, looting and stealing. And many of us, still haunted by that violation, will never again have a sense of security in our own homes.

Few of us, however, have awakened to realize that we have been violated as we slept in our own beds, doors locked, as the family dog patrolled the home. For me, the seconds--until I found my children were still safely tucked in their beds--were horrifying. The thought that one of my children might have been hurt or abducted was incomprehensible.


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The Wilmette police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had the keys to my family's home and automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences.

What is one to do when a criminal proceeds, undeterred by a 90-pound German shepherd, a security alarm system and a property lit up like an outdoor stadium? And now he has our house keys and an inventory of the things he'd like to call his own. Would the police patrol my dead-end street as effectively the second time as they had the first? Would my small children be unharmed the next time? Would the criminal be satisfied with another automobile, another television, or would he feel the need to climb the staircase to the bedrooms, perhaps for a watch or a ring or a wallet, again risking little?

Would my children wake to find a masked figure, clad in total black, in their bedroom doorway, a vision that might haunt them for years? Would the police come again and fill out yet another report and at what point should I feel comfortable that the "bad guy" got everything he wanted and wouldn't return a third time?

I went to the safe where my licensed and registered gun was kept, loaded it for the very first time and tucked it under the mattress of my bed. I assured my frightened children "that Daddy would deal with the bad guy ... if he ever returned."

Little did I imagine that this brazen thief was waiting in the back-yard bushes as I tucked my children into bed.

Fifteen minutes after bedtime, the security alarm went off. Three minutes after the alarm was triggered the alarm company alerted the police to the situation and 10 minutes later the first police car pulled up to my home, but only after another call was made to 911 by a trembling, half-naked father.

I suppose some would have grabbed their children and cowered in their bedroom for 13 minutes, praying that the police would get there in time to stop the criminal from climbing the stairs and confronting the family in a bedroom, trembling, dreading the sound of the door being kicked in.

That's not the fear I wanted my children to experience and it is not the cowardly act that I want my children to remember me by.

Until you are shocked by a piercing security alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don't suggest that some village trustee "knows better" and that he or she can effectively ask the police to protect your family from the miscreants that this society has produced.

The man who has been charged by police with invading my home has been arrested numerous times.

He was convicted of residential burglary in Minnesota. He served time last year after pleading guilty to felony motor vehicle theft in Minnesota.

He was convicted in 1997 of retail theft in Cook and DuPage Counties and in 1995 of drunk driving in Georgia.

How many other family homes has he violated, how many innocent lives have been affected, how many police reports have gone into some back-office file cabinet, only to become some abstract statistic? How is it that these people are free to roam our streets, violating our homes and threatening the safety of our children?

If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one criminal off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system failed to do despite numerous arrests and convictions.

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Thats a great letter.

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Very nice. I'm sending that off to Goveror Rod

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That is so true. I agree with everything he said. We are the victums people seem to forget. mabey our friends with 9 small buddies can remind these people.

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I think it's great that he shot the guy, too bad he didn't kill the bastard.

Also too bad that he wasn't current with his firearms registration and Wilmette has a ban on handguns.

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I'm very pro-gun - that guy should get a reward, not arrested for shooting that scumbag - but this story makes me think of the simpsons every time:

MOE:Yeah, so last night I was closing up the bar, when some young punk comes in and tries to stick me up.

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MOE:Well, it coulda been a real ugly situation, but I managed to shoot him in the spine. (crowd applaud)

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So, he shot the guy?? And I'm not sure... but I think I would change my f'in locks! What's wrong with this dude? Some guys got keys to your house, and you're not gonna change your locks??? Hmmm....

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good reading for someone thinking, that it will never happen...or ever happen again.
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So, he shot the guy?? And I'm not sure... but I think I would change my f'in locks! What's wrong with this dude? Some guys got keys to your house, and you're not gonna change your locks??? Hmmm....
He was broken into on a Sunday and couldn't get the locks changed on Monday. The cops didn't seem to help him much either.


I'm pretty anti-gun, but I can't blame the guy.

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AND... the guy never even loaded this gun before?? So, he's never shot this gun before?? Had he ever shot a gun before?? That's the part that bothers me... Some guy who thinks he's gonna be the hero, and he's never even fired a weapon before. Oh boy...

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I'm very pro-gun - that guy should get a reward, not arrested for shooting that scumbag - but this story makes me think of the simpsons every time:

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The crowd gasps.

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MOE:Well, it coulda been a real ugly situation, but I managed to shoot him in the spine. (crowd applaud)
I think you missed the point. I took that as mocking the absurd obsession that our society has with guns. That would be more consistant with Matt Groenig's work.

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I can sympathize with the guy. I had my 'family' home broken into twice when I was 12. If it were me I would have shot the guy to death; then place a knife in his hands and when the police arrive I would claim self defense 'I was in fear for my life & my family's life'. Who's to say I could have done better in that situtation. I'm not a trained officer of the law. That burglar got off easy if you ask me.


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1st off --congrats to the home owner for possibly ending nightmares and future nightmares of his family. Secondly--


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And both is better than living with the fact you stood by helpless while a loved one was raped and/or killed.

I can understand peoples' reservations with guns to a point, but I am a supporter of the 2nd Amendment and a persons right to secure and protect their family and property.

The primary function of the police is to arrest criminals, NOT prevent crime, and they and the criminals are the ones that benefit the most from disarming the citizenry.

With all this talk of the Patriot Act and making it easier for the government to investigate "suspects", we should be making it easier for the people to protect and defend their rights, family, and property, not harder.

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The primary function of the police is to arrest criminals, NOT prevent crime, and they and the criminals are the ones that benefit the most from disarming the citizenry.

With all this talk of the Patriot Act and making it easier for the government to investigate "suspects", we should be making it easier for the people to protect and defend their rights, family, and property, not harder.

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And both is better than living with the fact you stood by helpless while a loved one was raped and/or killed.

I can understand peoples' reservations with guns to a point, but I am a supporter of the 2nd Amendment and a persons right to secure and protect their family and property.

The primary function of the police is to arrest criminals, NOT prevent crime, and they and the criminals are the ones that benefit the most from disarming the citizenry.

With all this talk of the Patriot Act and making it easier for the government to investigate "suspects", we should be making it easier for the people to protect and defend their rights, family, and property, not harder.
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this is all verbal masturbation. lots of praising for this guy but is anyone actually going to do anything about wilmette? I really doubt it. If you want to help, write a letter and pick up the phone and call. everyone knows that this was the right thing to do but this guy has his guns taken away, don't you think this a-hole's friends are now going to show up late one night a few months from now to teach him a lesson?

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I think you missed the point. I took that as mocking the absurd obsession that our society has with guns. That would be more consistant with Matt Groenig's work.
It's called irony and I do get it fwiw Matt Groening strongly supports the NRA for guns, as he once said in an interview with the BBC quite a few years back.

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this is all verbal masturbation. lots of praising for this guy but is anyone actually going to do anything about wilmette? I really doubt it. If you want to help, write a letter and pick up the phone and call. everyone knows that this was the right thing to do but this guy has his guns taken away, don't you think this a-hole's friends are now going to show up late one night a few months from now to teach him a lesson?
I've already sent letters to our governor and the truste's of the village of wilmette. I encourage everyone else to do the same.

Who knows if this snowball gets rolling large enough we could end up the 66 concealed carry state after wisc.

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It's called irony and I do get it fwiw Matt Groening strongly supports the NRA for guns, as he once said in an interview with the BBC quite a few years back.
Exactly, Matt groening is a conservative from what I've heard.

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It's called irony and I do get it fwiw Matt Groening strongly supports the NRA for guns, as he once said in an interview with the BBC quite a few years back.
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not to bastardize a thread............wait a minute it's my thread

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but michael moore wouldn't know a Chevy truck if it rolled over him and left the hood emblum tattooed on his ass
Yeah, you're probably right. I don't think much of it, just playing devil's advocate(not the pin-ball machine.......Simpson's reference). If I was that guy, I would have been hitting up my gun toting friends for a hookup after my house was robbed though. Nothing is more important than the family.

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I completely support this guy for doing what he did. And I would like to say that I would do the same but the cold hard fact is that I dont have any guns. Now dont think you can rob my blind, I am like a crazed maniac with a frying pan when you piss me off. I would like to get a gun but the little lady is opposed to that idea at this time.

On a side note, but has there been any new news about that family in warrenville that had the breaking and the parents had to watch as the daughter was raped? I know they caught one of the guys but what happened after that?

I would put a lot of money down that that dad would have liked to have a gun that night.

oh and i hope that michael moore gets his fat ass tossed out of this country for being an ignorant biased lying asshole. His academy award should be taken back as well. he is no fucking documentary director. it is FICTION. That is not a documentary. (Rant over)

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For a conservative, he sure writes a liberally slanted show! I won't risk a total threadjack with countless examples, but methinks you might have heard wrong buddy.


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For a conservative, he sure writes a liberally slanted show! I won't risk a total threadjack with countless examples, but methinks you might have heard wrong buddy.

Actually you guys are right. I just did some reading and it turns out he is a member of the Greens

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On a side note, but has there been any new news about that family in warrenville that had the breaking and the parents had to watch as the daughter was raped? I know they caught one of the guys but what happened after that?
Nothing further to report at this time except that they arrested the guys in question and they are awaiting trial. They are friends of mine so I'm quite aware of the situation.

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