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Old 11-24-2003, 12:37 PM   #1
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If a gun were pulled out on you, what are you going to do? Say the "bad guy" is 3 ft. away, what do you do?
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Old 11-24-2003, 12:41 PM   #2
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3 feet away is within an arms reach. If I get that gut feeling he's gonna kill me, I'm taking a chance and grabin' for it.
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:05 PM   #3
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If a gun were pulled out on you, what are you going to do? Say the "bad guy" is 3 ft. away, what do you do?
Depends...

As Brian said, he's within arm's reach. What kind of weapon does he/she have?
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:09 PM   #4
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As Brian said, he's within arm's reach. What kind of weapon does he/she have?
Any type of handgun. The reason why im asking is that the world is crazy, as you all know, just wanted to know what everyone would do in a situation. Damn well ain't no Jet Li's here..
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I am. i'd kung fu his ass.
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tell yeah what when someone does it to me withien 3 feet, there gonna wish they never pointed it at me.
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:36 PM   #7
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tell yeah what when someone does it to me withien 3 feet, there gonna wish they never pointed it at me.
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It depends on the situation. Am I alone, or with family/friends? What are the chances he's gonna use it? If I'm by myself, and looks like there is a good chance he'll use it, I'd try to jump his ass and try to knock the gun off.
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Old 11-24-2003, 02:09 PM   #9
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It depends on the situation. Am I alone, or with family/friends? What are the chances he's gonna use it? If I'm by myself, and looks like there is a good chance he'll use it, I'd try to jump his ass and try to knock the gun off.
What he said and hope for the best, and then use it on the BG.
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Old 11-24-2003, 02:26 PM   #10
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I don't know I guess I've seen too many movies where the good guy actually doesn't get shot trying one of those moves and don't believe it anymore. I just have this thought that the guy is just gonna shot your ass as soon as you lunge for it.
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Iguess i would asess the situation first as in 1, is the hammer back? is the safety on? is his hand trembling slightly, are his eyes shfty as in looking around to see who's watching.... Is his arm outstretched? (just a few things that come naturally to look for.)

if he is shaking, shifty, and arm stretched out and pistol not hammer locked then he will be a sorry SOB! (unless he only wants money)

if he is calm collective and has his arm slightly bent and in the dbl action mode then i would attempt to give him what he wants (monitary) but if he wants more than than always put your hands in front of your chest like you are giving up, act really scared so he is over confident, then leaning to the left a touch LUNGE INTO HIS ARM PIT which is holding the gun and at the same time your left hand should try to hit his forearm area and your right hand should should be held like a claw so you can push his eyes into his head or if you miss you can also break his nose in the same motion which will temp blind him. Now that he is at a disadvantage either run, or collapse his windpipe but do not forget the gun. ensure you are in no danger.
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then leaning to the left a touch LUNGE INTO HIS ARM PIT
Unless he's a left handed assaliant. Then lean to the right.

Scary I know that
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That's scary to think about. I guess it depends.....am I alone? If so then I wouldn't worry so much about him shooting whoever I'm with. If he's a pro (steady, calm, etc) then I'd just give him the money. I never carry that much with me, so no big loss. I'd rather live to fight another day. I don't wear expensive jewelry so no big loss there either. He can have it if he's pointing it at me, three feet or not, all it takes is a second for the gun to go off.

BUT, If he wants more than money -- well he's gonna have to use both hands and (hopefully put the gun away). I'm not making it easy on him that's for sure. I learned alot in Kenpo class I plan to use it. I hate to put it into use cause I'm not sure how well I'd do but backed into a corner I'll make it less than worthwhile that's for sure.
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if a guy pulls a gun on you, COMPLY!!!!!


and only if you FEEL your life is FOR SURE going to be taken, and you have the will to fight for life. then do what you can.

trying to disarm a person with a loaded weapon single action or not, takes ALOT of PRATICE! and it is NEVER 100% for sure, no matter how much you train.

there is classes for this, and if you guys want i will look into it, and of course it COST!

but my advise after going threw classes like this is all is for you guys is PREVENTION, cause alot of people here dont have the abilty to train like that on a daily or weekly basis.

and the whole point to disarming is that, not to divert or draw attention, but its actually to get that weapon away from that person once you make THE CORRECT!!!! move.
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If a gun were pulled out on you, what are you going to do? Say the "bad guy" is 3 ft. away, what do you do?
I'd say, " Damn Ken, I was just kidding."

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Ok, let me rephrase this. Ok, some bad guy with a gun has the intent of kiling you, say he was some guy that you fucked with a long long time ago, just came back to show you his lil' friend. Hes in front of you, gun at you chest, 3 ft away, with the intent to kill. But at the same time, hes blabbin' on and on about this and that. SHould you A) Go for his gun B) Lunge at him hoping he won't have time to shoot C) Cry like a bitch D) Bust some Bruce Lee action on his ass . You can also add your own option.
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If the point is directly at your chest and the preson is going on... there first thing is to deflect the weapon to either side of you body. (Depending of what hand the gun is being held with)

If you know how, the first objective after you are out of the line of fire is to disarm. If you have no clue then it is to disable the person, Gauge the eyes out, kick to the groind to disorient, then gauge eyes out.

Disarming is not hard, but you do have to practice and know the basics. The best thing to do is to take a self defense course that teaches you how to disarm someone with a gun or with a cutting weapon.
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We practice this in my Krav Maga class all the time, Knives too
With a Gun pointed at you, you can grab the gun, move out of the way and disarm the BG very quickly.

We practice with toy guns, you CAN get out of the way before the BG pulls the trigger

They teach all sorts of great stuff...like how to stab a BG with his own knife when he has it to your throat from behind
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We practice this in my Krav Maga class all the time, Knives too
With a Gun pointed at you, you can grab the gun, move out of the way and disarm the BG very quickly.

We practice with toy guns, you CAN get out of the way before the BG pulls the trigger

They teach all sorts of great stuff...like how to stab a BG with his own knife when he has it to your throat from behind
We did that in Kyuki-do class. disarming someone is part of the brown, red and blackbelt tests.

My favorite was when teh attacker came at you with the knife coming down, you grab his wrist and make him stab himself in the groin.
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We did that in Kyuki-do class. disarming someone is part of the brown, red and blackbelt tests.

My favorite was when teh attacker came at you with the knife coming down, you grab his wrist and make him stab himself in the groin.
For Krav, when they attack you straight on, you block them at the wrist, while punching them in the face, then you grab the back of their head. knee them in the face while holding the knife arm with your other hand. as they go down you put them in an arm bar and take the knife away to do what you like. I like to stab them in the back of the melon It all happens in a split sec.
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If their only 3 ft away they made the mistake of getting to close. Almost anyone can make a move faster then the shooter reation time, if you know what your doing you can disarm him; if you don't you're dead. It's actually pretty easy to peal the gun out of the shooters hand if you know the moves, but like Ken said I wouldn't recomend trying it your first or second time in the real situation.
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i would say i was sorry, then say sorry when i pull the trigger each time hitting a pain receptor, till i run out of bullets, then give a blood tranfusion, then take the butt of the gun, start smashing digits, then his nuts, then his balls, stick the gun up his ass bore up with 1 round left, then keep hitting him in the where the balls use to be till it blows his head off.
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Ok, let me rephrase this. Ok, some bad guy with a gun has the intent of kiling you, say he was some guy that you fucked with a long long time ago, just came back to show you his lil' friend. Hes in front of you, gun at you chest, 3 ft away, with the intent to kill. But at the same time, hes blabbin' on and on about this and that. SHould you A) Go for his gun B) Lunge at him hoping he won't have time to shoot C) Cry like a bitch D) Bust some Bruce Lee action on his ass . You can also add your own option.
I saw a demonstration at a gun show when I was an FFL dealer similar to your situation (the dealer didn't think highly of the Berretta model 92, and told someone to draw (unloaded) on him 3 feet away...the dealer had the slide and barrel stripped off the frame before the owner got it chest level.) If you know what you're doing I'd say fight (or at least go out fighting)
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Prayers having been said, you might as well go for the disarming move. If you can stop him from using a weapon on you, maybe you can stop him from using it on someone else.

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I saw a demonstration at a gun show when I was an FFL dealer similar to your situation (the dealer didn't think highly of the Berretta model 92, and told someone to draw (unloaded) on him 3 feet away...the dealer had the slide and barrel stripped off the frame before the owner got it chest level.) If you know what you're doing I'd say fight (or at least go out fighting)
I also heard that Beretta's were the easiest type's of guns to disassemble.[ Ala Jet Li style in Lethal Weapon]
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My .02 cents....be trained before you go defend yourself most of the time. Also, remember the case where the guy snuck in a woman's chimney so he could rob her, fell on some knives, sued her, and won. That guy may just sue you!

if you cut yourself up a bit, mess up your hair, clothes etc.. then violate him with those same knives, kill him, then claim self defense
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