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Old 11-23-2009, 10:23 AM   #1
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Kel-Tec PMR-30 pistol

Kel-Tec PMR-30 pistol

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...pmr-30-pistol/


Kel-Tech have developed a new pistol which chambers the .22 Magnum (WMR) rimfire cartridge. The small size of the .22 WMR has allowed Kel-Tec to squeeze 30 rounds into the double-stacked magazine (a new original design), yet maintain a comfortable grip size.

The PMR-30 has a unique hybrid blow back / locked breech recoil system. In order to accommodate a wide range of ammunition, the pistol automatically adjusts between locked breach and blowback based on internal pressure. I look forward to seeing how this system works.

One problem with the .22 Magnum is that because it was designed as a rifle cartridge, the powder load is slow burning. This maintains high pressure in the barrel for a longer period of time. This high pressure can prevent extraction during recoil because the gas pushes out against the brass and presses it into the chamber wall. Shooting Log report that the PMR-30 has a fluted chamber to prevent this type of extraction problem. The gas enters the flutes and counterbalances the pressure against the case wall and also acts as a lubricant.1

The PM-30's frame is aluminum. The slide and barrel are steel. Interestingly, the barrel is fluted.

Specifications
Caliber .22 Magnum (.22WMR)
Barrel length 4.3"
Slide and Barrel 4140 Steel
Frame 7075 Aluminum
Magazine capacity 30 rounds
Trigger pull 3.5 to 5 lbs
Weight (no mag) 13.6 oz.
Length 7.9"
Height 5.8"
Grip Width 1.1"
Muzzle Velocity (40 gr) 1230 fps
Expected Availability Quarter 2, 2010
MSRP (Price) $415



Huh. This will be $$$$ to feed at 30 rnds a magazine. I like it. Need it? No.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:55 AM   #2
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I'll stick to my AMT in .22 magnum. May not have 30 rounds but in a handgun like this who needs 30?
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I'll stick to my AMT in .22 magnum. May not have 30 rounds but in a handgun like this who needs 30?
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Apparently they shipped this week, should be arriving at stores shortly. I'm gonna pick one up I think, maybe I'll wait for the .17HMR version... not sure yet.
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Cheaper than an FN Five-Seven, both to buy and feed. Same performance
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Apparently they shipped this week, should be arriving at stores shortly. I'm gonna pick one up I think, maybe I'll wait for the .17HMR version... not sure yet.


Don't hold your breath on that one. Seeing that the 17's did not work all too well in semi auto rifles I doubt they will fix that for the pistol.
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Don't hold your breath on that one. Seeing that the 17's did not work all too well in semi auto rifles I doubt they will fix that for the pistol.
Aye, I did a bit more reading on that Remington fiasco, FUBAR. Anyway, I suppose that .22WMR is a solid enough cartridge for most mammals, especially when you consider the fact that there's 30 of them!
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Anyway, I suppose that .22WMR is a solid enough cartridge for most mammals, especially when you consider the fact that there's 30 of them!
If someone need 30 rounds to kill one small mammal, then they need to stay the hell away from hunting.
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If someone need 30 rounds to kill one small mammal, then they need to stay the hell away from hunting.
I never said small. I also never said hunting.

Humans are mammals too.

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