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Ratchet or cam straps?

Which do you use? One preferred over the other when using a front chock?

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I use only cams but I have an enclosed so if theres an issue at least the bike isnt tumbling down the road. Ratchets are always over tightened and cause fork issues. Perhaps get a canyon dancer to be even safer. You didnt say if this was a sportbike or dirty or..

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rachets only, get the cam straps good and tight and theyll jam up and its a bitch getting em to release after the tab snaps off

and there are ways to fasten the bike so that no matter how tight the strap is the forks wont be damaged

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tabs that snap off?? what?

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Sportbike, open trailer.

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tabs that snap off?? what?
ill post a pic tonight of the last 2 cam straps i had both release tabs snapped off trying to release my bike and all i did was use then on the rear end to the passenger pegs and tightened them only with me sitting on the bike

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Sportbike, open trailer.
ok then dont use cams
but dont buy cheap whichever direction you go.

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These look nice. Extra clip on the hook, ratchet on the end away from the bike and built in soft loop. US made.
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Gator straps. I have used their Cam straps and been very pleased. Have towed the bike to NC a couple times with them and they worked well.

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These look nice. Extra clip on the hook, ratchet on the end away from the bike and built in soft loop. US made.
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no good. the strap looks too thin.

thin strap loosens... the strap needs to be solid so it doesn't slip.

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cam buckles FTW. Don't get the strap crossed up and you won't jam it.

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Question Answered! I would still strap the front or use a chock just to keep it from moving side/side.

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^^^

I talked to a fella using them this weekend. He loves them.
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I cant afford the pitbulls, I use a baxley with a small ratchet strap to hold the front wheel in, then one around the back wheel to keep it from moving side to side. No fork or shock stress.

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This is like the Coke or Pepsi battle LOL!! Half ratchet and half Cam.
So far it sounds like I should go 1 1/2" - 2" though. Those Gator straps looks nice.

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I cant afford the pitbulls, I use a baxley with a small ratchet strap to hold the front wheel in, then one around the back wheel to keep it from moving side to side. No fork or shock stress.
sounds interesting for the front. Any pics by chance?


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sounds interesting for the front. Any pics by chance?

I will look. Thats how all 4 of the bikes were on the way down to Jennings. No straps high, so you could walk between them even though they were close, without feeling like you were caught in a spider web.

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I've got condor and would love to do this way instead of compressing the front end.


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I've got condor and would love to do this way instead of compressing the front end.

Yep - actually on the way down, two were in Baxleys, one was in a Condor, and one was in a homemade condor knock-off.

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Yea the old one that Taz made years ago? I have one of those also. Def post a pic if ya got so I can see. I have an idea but was wondering about the buckle


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Ratchet straps. I saw a bike fall over in an open trailer once leaving BHF using the cam straps. Good thing it wasn't on the highway.

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This is like the Coke or Pepsi battle LOL!! Half ratchet and half Cam.
So far it sounds like I should go 1 1/2" - 2" though. Those Gator straps looks nice.
I dont like teh 1.5 and 2" width because placing them on the bike without bunching them sideways is difficult if not impossible as well the hooks are bigger adn its harder to pass them through tight places on the bike

a quality 1" strap is fine ive never broken a decent 1" rachet strap yet
the webbing is claimed to be rated to 4500 lbs which is definately a good strap

the biggest thing with webbing strength is avoiding twists, passing it over sharp corners, bunching it sideways, and abrasion

the straighter and more aligned you can keep the webbing the better it can handle the load

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I used the new canyon dancer 2 and it's a lot better then the old one. Might want to look into getting one


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