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Advice on enclosed trailer?

So with my addiction to track days in full swing, and after swearing at my 3-slot open rail trailer once too many times, I'm seriously considering an enclosed trailer.

A local outfit has a new 2008 Haulmark 6x10 single axle, w/ramp door, side door, roof vent and 12v light for just under $3K OTD. It's tall enough for me to stand in (I'm 6'1") and looks to be solidly built. about 88" tall on the outside. 15" wheels. Leaf spring axles. 2990lbs max cap. It has interior wood sides (thin stuff on metal studs) and sturdy (at least 5/8") treated plywood floor.

Is this a decent price for the trailer?


I'm thinking of adding a LP popchock and maybe pit bull rear attachment for hauling the bike to/from the track, while leaving the trailer available for other hauling projects without a lot of re-fitment. Maybe some e-track, too.

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Things to check, you want a 3/4 inch floor minimum, you'd be surprised how many come with less. Torsion axle does tow better than leaf springs. I also think you might be over paying or what your looking at. Check with Gene funks out in morris. they are a haulmark dealer and have excellent prices. thats where I got my enclosed trailer after A LOT of shopping.




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For an grand you can get an aluminum framed enclosed.

Also +1 on what Tony said about the axles. Torsion is better then springs, lot like Cadillac vs a Yugo.

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Well, I'll need to keep a few thou for track days next season.

I'm not opposed to buying used, just so far the cost of used is pretty near new, and for a $1K diff, I might go new, unless there is a good reason not to.

Also, can't seem to find the FS ads for trailers here on CLSB. What forum are they in?

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I suppose I could sell my trailer if you want one.

Or, I could hook you up with one just like it.

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I suppose I could sell my trailer if you want one.

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I really can't handle anything bigger than 6x12, with one axle. My minivan's 3.3L engine can't pull anything bigger and maintain safety margins for braking and acceleration. I'd really prefer a 6x10.

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if you are just doing occasional track days, i'd recommend barn doors in the back with a ramp. not only does it give somewhere to sit, but the ramp will take up alot of room behind your trailer in "camp"

im suprised you guys like the torsion axles better, since the trailer we use at work, towing motorcycles all day and nite, is a 7x16" tandem torsion axled pulled by a 2500 crew cab chevy that rides like absolute shit when empty or lightly loaded. maybe because you guys never really tow empty?
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lots of good deals on trailers now. search race club websites. I wish I had a truck to tow an enclosed trailer

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I intend to do 10 or more weekends next season. One of the attractions of the enclosed trailers for me is the ramp door. I'm tired of the narrow ramps on my 3-rail trailer. BTW: It will be FS as soon as I get something else.

I can always park the trailer a little farther in to compensate for the ramp length.

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lots of good deals on trailers now. search race club websites. I wish I had a truck to tow an enclosed trailer
So far I'm seeing $2k to 2500 asking prices. Not much more gets a new one. The ones that are less are a long drive away (>800 miles) or are too large for my tow vehicle.

I appreciate all the input. I'm still going over all the info. Not sure if I'm trying to talk myself out of it or into it. But the open rail trailer definitely has to go.

I could go for a flatbed trailer and save $, but the idea of being able to pack it in and go and not have to unpack when arriving home at/after midnight on Sunday is real appealing. This season saw some real tough Mondays when I had to be on a 7AM flight after a track day. Not only was I kind of stiff from being crammed into a coach seat, the unloading while dead tired and the short night was not fun. It'd be nice to be able to leave most of the stuff locked in the trailer until I got back mid-week.

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Enclosed Rock! I had a 6X12 and loved it. I also had the ramp and extended height inside. If you go ramp door make sure to get with the torsion for ease of lowering and raising the door.

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I intend to do 10 or more weekends next season. One of the attractions of the enclosed trailers for me is the ramp door. I'm tired of the narrow ramps on my 3-rail trailer. BTW: It will be FS as soon as I get something else.

I can always park the trailer a little farther in to compensate for the ramp length.
thats why you get a wider ramp, plus since the deck is low, and normal ramp ment to go into a pickup works very nicely. just sayin'

dont count on "always" having enough room to just pull up a bit.

also, if i was going to spend $1 on a trailer, it'd have to be enclosed. clean bikes, all gear goes in there, and then you have an empty truck to tote yourself
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I suppose I could sell my trailer if you want one.

Or, I could hook you up with one just like it.
Or I could apply to be your trailer-boy and tag along in return for the transport

Or make the same offer to the lockharts.

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Ramp doors seem cool at first but they are a pain in the ass. they are always in the way at the track, cargo doors pen up out of the way and you can put your EZ up right up against the trailer. then just keep a small ramp in the trailer for loading and unloading. you only need a ramp on your trailer for 5 minutes a weekend, Why trip over it all weekend if you dont have too.




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Or I could apply to be your trailer-boy and tag along in return for the transport

Or make the same offer to the lockharts.
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Fair enough. I never expected a free ride. Having my own trailer certainly won't be free!

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Cheapest thing you can do is ride with someone else. Then they get to pay for taxes, registration, trailer storage, maintenance, outfitting the trailer, tires, brakes, and all the vehicle related stuff.

Heck, I spent over $2500 in maintenance alone on the trailer and truck last month. Both are ONLY used for track days.

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You're right about the ride share.

The hardest part about that is that all the hard-core guys seem to live at the other ends of the metro area, and coordination has been an issue. I'd still need some way to get my stuff to the common departure point, although for that a flatbed would be adequate.

No matter what I do about a trailer, I'm very interested in ride shares for next season. It helps defray costs, and is usually more enjoyable than heading out alone. Plus it's easier to stay awake driving home if there are others in the car/cab.

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We've got a ramp door, and have never wanted anything else. We already jam enough crap in there, I don't want to have to mess with ramps too. It's just one more thing to have to do. We've never run into a situation where there wasn't enough room to drop the door, we don't trip on it all weekend... which is pretty good 'cos we're really accident prone/clumsy, and it makes it super easy to load weird stuff like our giant ass generator.

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So far I'm seeing $2k to 2500 asking prices. Not much more gets a new one.
But look at the accessories they put into them. that can get pricey quickly.

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But look at the accessories they put into them. that can get pricey quickly.
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I'm not even gonna add up the stuff in my trailer.

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Take a look a the trailer John Gu is selling. Might work for you.

http://tracktalk.nesba.com/showthread.php?t=2306

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Gu's trailer is good although it's in St Louis. But through this thread I've now got a line on something nicer. We'll see if it works out.

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