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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-09-2009, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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I have the kind of tie down straps that do not ratchet. You just pull it tight, and to release you just press a part on the latch so the strap can slide back. Will its strength/holding power be compromised by driving in snowy weather? I use them to haul my dirt bike on a carrier on the back of an suv so they get will get wet for sure from the slush and stuff getting kicked up on them.
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those are garbage anyway, just get some ratcheting ones
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those are garbage anyway, just get some ratcheting ones
i disagree. my ancra non ratchet straps are awesome. i doubt wetness will be a factor.

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i disagree. my ancra non ratchet straps are awesome. i doubt wetness will be a factor.
$26/pc? I would hope so...

My experience with some cheaper non ratchet straps was they became loose after 20 miles. I guess the nice ones hold!
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ancras ftw.

as soon as they are good and wet, just give them another tug, cuz the strap itself stretches a bit.
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$26/pc? I would hope so...

My experience with some cheaper non ratchet straps was they became loose after 20 miles. I guess the nice ones hold!
oh yeah and you can strap the bike down solo super easy, just hop on it and pull one strap per hand. boom done, they hold like crazy. the junk ones are junk though.

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oh yeah and you can strap the bike down solo super easy, just hop on it and pull one strap per hand. boom done, they hold like crazy. the junk ones are junk though.
There was an '02 black and yellow F4i belonging to an unmentioned member who has sold and replaced it, ehem, on a trailer I was pulling. Those straps came pretty damn loose...

gotta check out the ancra's!
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what they said. Good friction straps are solid.

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oh yeah and you can strap the bike down solo super easy, just hop on it and pull one strap per hand. boom done, they hold like crazy. the junk ones are junk though.
+1 with the pull strap going solo.
you cant go solo with the ratchet set

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yah cheep ones come loose easy, especially if wet. ancras, well..not so much.

our work trailer moves about 5-8 bikes per day 3 days a week, and we have some heavy duty ratchets with fuzzy soft ties for the cruisers, everything else gets tied down with ancras..
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+1 with the pull strap going solo.
you cant go solo with the ratchet set
sure you can if you haz kickstand. put on kickstandz, loosely tie down left side, tie down right side to lift the bike off the kickstand and level
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There was an '02 black and yellow F4i belonging to an unmentioned member who has sold and replaced it, ehem, on a trailer I was pulling. Those straps came pretty damn loose...

gotta check out the ancra's!
did he seat on the tank to compress the folks down before pulling the straps. am sure he don;t.

i towed one of my ex bike from NC to IL with the pull strap with no problem without it getting loose or bike moving.

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sure you can if you haz kickstand. put on kickstandz, loosely tie down left side, tie down right side to lift the bike off the kickstand and level
but your bike is not compress totally and can still move. can ( that don't mean it will move either if you do it your way)

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i tow alot of bikes daily, very far using this method, and can usually get the fork to within 1/2" of full compression with a non-ratcheting tie down. ratcheting ties, well thats no prob getting full compression, but its prolly not good for anything, and you risk pulling the hook out of the floor or breaking the chock off.

just came back from indy with 4 bikes, and 2 quads from auction with no scary sights once i opened the trailer door when i got back.
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+1 with the pull strap going solo.
you cant go solo with the ratchet set
why not?
I use ratchet straps and have loaded the bike solo 100's of times
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why not?
I use ratchet straps and have loaded the bike solo 100's of times
that is totally fine.
sorry but i never did and am not planning to do it solo with ratchet.

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Ancras - just do a half-hitch to finish it off and you'll be fine.

Otherwise - get some Gator Straps, the best out there. $30 a set.

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you can load solo with ratchets very easily, just takes longer.

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They are fine..... used them a LOT.

One note..... they stretch a little in wet weather.


One stop about 30 mins in, tighten them...... good to go.



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Sure, the ratchet-less straps may do the trick, but for $25 you can get a set of 4 2500lb rated ratchet straps at WM. Why risk it?
But if you do decide to use the ratchet-less, be sure to compress your suspension. I have had straps loosen from the hook end on really rough roads.
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i tow alot of bikes daily, very far using this method, and can usually get the fork to within 1/2" of full compression with a non-ratcheting tie down. ratcheting ties, well thats no prob getting full compression,
that must be hell on fork seals though, no?

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rockymountainatv has the ratchet ones with the carabiners(sp?) on one end and soft straps on the other, for under $20 for the pair. I've been using them solo for a long time, they are my favorite and do not slip.
I picked up another set recently for a 2nd bike.

I've had the others slip when they've gotten wet, but I had so many I couldn't tell you which brand


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that must be hell on fork seals though, no?
i wouldnt think so. springs maybe
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Ratchets in snow and salt wiill start to corrode and will become a PITA to use. I prefer the cam buckle type and tying the extra slack in a knot so it does not loosen.
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