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What's the price for 2004 ram 2500 diesel ?

How many miles is too much for these things ? I see that kbb suggests to lowball since a lot of weight is on miles. And most of the stuff for sale is way over 100k.

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did you check nada.com?

i'd just ask dieselboy... oh wait
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did you check nada.com?

i'd just ask dieselboy... oh wait
didn't think about that one. thanks!
and no, contrary to popular belief I have no idea what these diesel thingies are about.

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yes. toy haulers forum please.

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FWIW, any of the diesels in pickups can easily be expected to last over 250k. You may have a turbo, injector, intercooler or any other number of costly electronic failures, but the engine itself should last a very long time. I've always been partial to the Powerstroke engines in the fords, but lately I am leaning toward the Cummins engines. I sell parts for all these things and it seems like the Cummins are cheaper parts overall than the powerstrokes or gm boat anchors. I wouldn't touch 6.0 powerstroke or any of the gm engines.

If you get a specific dodge in mind, you have to check into engine block failures and see if you're block has the suspect casting numbers. Not a TON of failures, but expensive enough that I'd research heavinly to make sure I didn't end up with the one of the potential bad ones. That applies to the older 5.9 B series and the newer ISB's.

As far as pricing, people are fucking crazy. 20k will likely get you one thats pretty clapped out.

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I'd steer clear of anything with over 300K on it.
I'd look for a manual over an auto.
I'd want maintenance records if at all possible.
Carfax is a given.
I know when I bought my '05 Ford I was able to pull all the dealer info for my truck. Every time it was serviced or into the dealer. That was HUGE. I found out allot of stuff that carfax did not address.

Last but not least, I'd buy a Ford.


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Edit: A quick CL local search found an '03 quad cab qith 160K for $15,900, No '04's listed. Are they rare or something? Also found a couple '06 for $25,000.

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thanks! 2003 was the first year they came out. Also 2004.5 it's got engine update. But still , It's weird that between 06 and 03 , car lost about 10k in value ....

where were you able to find service records ? what information to look for ? too much in the dealership service = lemon

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FWIW, any of the diesels in pickups can easily be expected to last over 250k. You may have a turbo, injector, intercooler or any other number of costly electronic failures, but the engine itself should last a very long time. I've always been partial to the Powerstroke engines in the fords, but lately I am leaning toward the Cummins engines. I sell parts for all these things and it seems like the Cummins are cheaper parts overall than the powerstrokes or gm boat anchors. I wouldn't touch 6.0 powerstroke or any of the gm engines.

If you get a specific dodge in mind, you have to check into engine block failures and see if you're block has the suspect casting numbers. Not a TON of failures, but expensive enough that I'd research heavinly to make sure I didn't end up with the one of the potential bad ones. That applies to the older 5.9 B series and the newer ISB's.

As far as pricing, people are fucking crazy. 20k will likely get you one thats pretty clapped out.
Thanks. read about 6.0 psd too.

what are the engine block failures ? aren't blocks basically the same from 03 to 07 ?

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great vid series on the ford diesel motors



He also has some "fubar" vids with lots of diesel carnage

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The 03 to 06 most likely lost soo much value because the older they get the harder it is to get a loan on them and since they cost a hefty amount used most people can't get a loan for the older ones. That means that they need to keep dropping the prices on them to find a buyer. I picked up a 99.5 F350 in 2004 and the salesperson said that I was the fifth person who wanted it but that the 4 before me wanted to take a loan against it and could not get financed on it due to it's age and mileage. Banks don't care that the diesel trucks can go for soo many miles, if it looks a bit high and it's a few years old they won't finance it.

BTW - My truck is a manual trans and I've got to say that for towing a big trailer it's awesome, and I've really got no fear that the trans will ever go out on it. But, it's a PITA to drive around town. I'm also a huge fan of the crew cab with a short bed because the crew cab long beds like mine are just a wee bit too long many times.

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He also has some "fubar" vids with lots of diesel carnage

Jesus Mary and Joseph! Pull the CAB to get at your fuel pump?! Not in my lifetime. Dang that sucks.

Weren't the suspect blocks for Dodge the 99-2002 '53' blocks?
I almost went Dodge this last time around but I love the Fords cab more. Didn't want to shell out for a Megacab, but wanted a full back seat.

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Weren't the suspect blocks for Dodge the 99-2002 '53' blocks?
This.

The 53 block were made in Brazil, and were prone to cracking near a freeze plug. Mexican blocks were not having the same problems. It was a known problem to Cummins, but they didn't have enough failures to warrant a recall. I had a copy of a field service campaign for a while that explained it to great detail, but I must have left it at the last job.
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