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looking for opinions on enclosed trailers
I'm thinking about getting an 8x20 to use for track days and occasional car tow. How do the different brands compare like haulmark, cargo mate, pace any other brands that you can recommend? I'm trying to stay cheap but I don't want a pos.
barn doors or ramp style?
what interior height? I can't fit it into the garage anyways so I'm assuming the taller the better since I'm 6 ft tall. Whats common?
I'm pretty sure torsion is the way to go
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glad you posted this, because i too need this info. i was told that an
aluminum trailer is also preferred (weight issue), torsion axle, dual axles.

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dual axle
brakes
rv style door latches
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the ramp door vs, barn door argument rages on

For track days etc I prefer barn doors. Yes ramp doors make loading easier, but thats 5 minutes out of your track weekend, the rest of the weekend your tripping over that damn door. get the barn doors and use a separate ramp, it stows neatly under the trailer during the weekend, and it's easier to set up an easy up behind the trailer for the pits.

I was very happy with my cargo mate.




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Cars don't like barn doors much so if you do intend to tow a car at some point the ramp door is really the way to go. The 20' car haulers are pretty nice, I've got a 24' and it's overkill for bikes but great for cars where the 20' trailers seem nice for bikes without being too extreme but a bit tight for cars.

What truck will you be towing with? Trust me that you don't want to tow too large of an enclosed for your truck, it's not safe or comfortable to do so. Even if the truck can tow the weight of the trailer enclosed trailers have a tone more wind drag and get pushed around a bunch on the highway which will pull your truck around.

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a ford f150 troy, 5.7L.

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I bought my cargo mate from Gene funks.

Trailer shops are all kind of backwoods. dont expect high end customer service etc. all of them are more than likely to greet you with a "what do you want" as opposed to "how may I help you"

that f-150 will start to feel uncomfortable with anything larger than 16 to 18 feet.

I used to tow my 7x14 with my Tundra, which had no issues whatsoever, it was like it wasn't even back there. But, I stored my trailer at work so I would tow it back and forth to work with my f-150 (work truck) to store it. the f-150 really felt that trailer back there, the rear end sagged quite a bit and acceleration and handling were drastically impacted.




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Don't we have a fourm for trailers and such?
Duh! we are in it




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that f-150 will start to feel uncomfortable with anything larger than 16 to 18 feet.
Agreed.

When I had an F150 that I towed an open trailer with and when we got the enclosed the F150 was no longer an option. Don't get me wrong, I did tow it a couple times but it was scarry as hell even with the load bar hitch and sway brace. The truck claimed to tow (I think) 9300# and the trailer was lighter than that loaded but it was still just too much for the truck. Bikes are fairly light so a 16-18' enclosed with bikes will be doable but I wouldn't get crazy and load a car up in there for a cross country trip.

The f150's (all the 1/2 tons not just fords) really need the load stabilizing hitches and sway bars to make them tow these trailers with any confidence.

My opinion is to give up the car towing idea with that truck unless you really have a need for it and get a nice comfortable 14-16' enclosed with tandem axles and brakes at all wheels. The car haulers are super wide too which makes seeing behind them while driving a real bitch while the slightly narower trailers you can easily see behind and still fit two bikes side by side. I like the ramp door myself but I'm lazy so it works for me.

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+1 to tmc, if you want to tow a car, upgrade the truck to a 3/4 ton. My old 3/4 ton ford v-10 used to tow like a monster. It sucked when my company bumped me down to a 150.




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a word of advise
Once you get your enclosed - outfitting it will become as much of an obsession as bikes or cars

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thanks guys
I got a 99 dodge ram 4x4 now and wanted to get a conversion van in the future I guess I'll keep an eye out for a 3/4 ton at least.
Do you need the extended mirrors for a 8.5x20?
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Once you get your enclosed - outfitting it will become as much of an obsession as bikes or cars

I dunno Mike, I haven;t done anything to my trailer in years. Works fine just the way it is.

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I got a 99 dodge ram 4x4 now and wanted to get a conversion van in the future I guess I'll keep an eye out for a 3/4 ton at least.
Do you need the extended mirrors for a 8.5x20?
Always best to be able to get the mirrors our as far as you can.

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I dunno Mike, I haven;t done anything to my trailer in years. Works fine just the way it is.
the guy I bought mine from didnt do anything other than a brass pole..
Ive had to add some personal touches to it

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the guy I bought mine from didnt do anything other than a brass pole..
Ive had to add some personal touches to it


I miss that trailer LOL




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Very important. Torsion axles make a huge difference in how the trailer tows. it's sooooo much smoother with them.




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Once you get your enclosed - outfitting it will become as much of an obsession as bikes or cars
you mean like winks. really though i see wat u mean. not sure exactly how
to set up the bike (s) position. mainly it will be my gixxer and a pit bike.
but i want to be able to haul a second bike. (with the mentioned above)
centering i guess is my problem as of now. just need to get in it i guess

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the trailer is the cheap part. soon after you buy it you will find this site and go broke LOL
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I just recently sent this to design-engine in a PM response, but it may help here as well.

He asked about trailer and a tire changing solution:

Well, the easy one is get the NoMar tire changer with the hitch mount. If you do that, when you call, tell Steve that I sent you and he might have a special deal for you. Tell him you race with me.

For the trailers, best place to shop and get an idea of pricing is racingjunk.com, start at http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1..._Trailers.html and you will find a great understanding for pricing and what is available in the market.

If you want a nice trailer, twin axle, torsion, ramp door is the way to go. there are TONS of great used ones available on the market, and you should be able to get a real steal. Traditionally, barn door trailers are for utility folk, like yard men, laborers, etc.. and as such, the used ones are crap. BUT... you can get them really cheap.

Depending on your budget, that determines what you get. I would stay away from no name trailers, they are total crap. Haulmark, Classic, Pace, etc.. are the ones that you get good value from.

For setting it up, this might help on some of the options: http://web.mac.com/brianwink/iWeb/Travel/Trailers.html although I'd recommend PitBull restraints for the bike these days.

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i like "aluma" say a 12' or 14'. goin to gene funks the end of feb.
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for me its an aluminum all day ,grinding rust and painting is worthless,as well as weight savings as tony said the torsion is the only way to go my last new trailer was spring and it sucked just for those two reasons alone i sold my new pace and took a considerable loss. rance ,featherlight,legend and even forest river are some good ones.
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you mentioned the no mar , i got one myself and found it to be a great value,
my question is it seems abit easier to have a xtra set of rims loaded up with fresh rubber than take the no mar to the track,behond that how would i set the bead with a bead blaster or pancake compressor?would a pancake plugged into my generator 100v do it?to bring out the balancer and all seems too much, let me know what you think?
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Here you go. Dave is a straight shooter and also use to work for an company that built trailers so he knows the ins and outs of them.


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