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Sumo commuter worth it?

So I am thinking about picking up a second bike. I have fallen in love with supermoto bikes. I want something with awesome gas mileage, extremely light, light offroad exploring, and general hooliganism.

So I want to ask you guys who own supermotos, would it be worth buying in the chicagoland suburbs? I dont plan on actually taking it to the track ever(at least thats what I say now) and I will mostly be blasting to and from work and some general weekend fun on it. My worries are that it cannot do highway speeds very well, I dont have any other friends that are into supermotos, and there doesnt seem to be very many places to do offroad exploring without ending up in handcuffs. Will a sumo be worth it if im just looking for some extreme, lightweight, low power fun? Or will it be a waste?
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get a drz it is an exellent entry level sumo and can do all of the above mentioned things.
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Yeah I have already been looking into the DRZ, but my question was more geared towards do you guys enjoy riding it around the burbs and such? I mean i already own a a honda 919 that I plan on only using for riding with buddies on supersports, 2 up, and any long highway drives. I want my sumo to be more of a daily driver, but would this bike spend more time in the garage than on the street?
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Commuting in the city will be a problem on a sumo. Too much exposure when doing wheelies, sliding the rear, general hooliganism, etc. The police will likely know you by name.

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Firm believer in 600cc Single and up for the street - Can tackle the hwy and do 70mph all day and all around fun in other areas too

it really comes down to how much you want to spend....

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I want my sumo to be more of a daily driver, but would this bike spend more time in the garage than on the street?
After I got mine I ended up selling my zx10r. I ride it everywhere I go locally and will put a smile on your face every time you ride. The only time a cop stopped me, I was wheelieing through a parking lot & he pulled up and said "stop being stupid". I said yes sir and off I went.
I like it because you can push the bike harder on the street without breaking the speed limit (sort of). It's comfy, I can throw my kids on the back and explore, it was cheap and it"s bulletproof.
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Yeah I have already been looking into the DRZ, but my question was more geared towards do you guys enjoy riding it around the burbs and such? I mean i already own a a honda 919 that I plan on only using for riding with buddies on supersports, 2 up, and any long highway drives. I want my sumo to be more of a daily driver, but would this bike spend more time in the garage than on the street?

How far is the commute?

I say yes to a DRZ or larger. My 690 doesn't seem to get great gas mileage for some reason
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Commuting in the city will be a problem on a sumo. Too much exposure when doing wheelies, sliding the rear, general hooliganism, etc. The police will likely know you by name.
Baloney.

I do so much stupid shit around Lakeview on my bike without so much as a second look from the Policia. I've even gotten a few thumbs up from the cops. There's enough other crap going on around here for them to worry about. Plus i'm gone so quick it's not an issue.
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Firm believer in 600cc Single and up for the street - Can tackle the hwy and do 70mph all day and all around fun in other areas too

it really comes down to how much you want to spend....
reports of sumo suitability for hiway use are greatly exaggerated, yes it can, but you'd be much better off on something/anything else for any trip that involves over 20 min of 70+ , despite what bug or anyone else, most of whom who doesnt own a big single cyl sumo may say, you'll never see any of them using a big single of any type for extended hiway use ever , but they will tell you to

no bike manufacturer has ever made any type of single cylinder bike that is a good hiway bike that i am aware of, and no an xr650 is not a good hiway bike

every time i give this type of advice i get bashed, but fuck off is all i can say in reply, please re-read what i wrote if your fingers are itching to tell me how wrong i am

i am not saying you cannot ride a sumo on the hiway, mine will do well over 100mph , just that its not the best idea for any real distance , for you or the motor's longevity

big sumo's are a blast at a real trackday except for the limited top speed on a long straight , 400-450 sumos are a blast at sumo trackday on go-cart track


since you have a 919 and plan on keeping it i would say get the sumo and have some fun! its a great second bike
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Maybe my use of the term "All Day" was taken out of context or used wrong

Elroy is correct, extend trips on a single will suck and the motor will not like them

A Blast on the Hwy (30) mins or so to get to the fun roads (have to know where to look) or fun trails, a 600cc single will take that "all day" - Smaller CC type bikes may not be as "comfortable" with (30) min blasts on the hwy

I agree with keeping the 919 (Stunna) and getting a "Dirt Bike" to play with

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I did the Starved Rock ride last summer on my DRZ with no issues.
Highway to the meet, ride all day, highway back. No problem.
Highways are NOT fun on the DRZ, but you're not going to hurt it. I used to do regular 30 mile runs on the DRZ with stock gearing, you're just going to get blown around some.
Also, I commute regularly (4/5 days) in city traffic. I can honestly say that being light and nimble has gotten me out of more problems than into them. 55 mpg's doesn't hurt either.
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Which suburb are you in?

If Des Plaines or similar, then you'll have a blast.

If Rockford or somewhere that's not really a suburb, then no

Personally, I've had my DRZ on the expressway and it sucked. But for around the city, I love it more than my 600RR.

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Commute isnt really a typical commute, approx 16-20 mim on all city roads.

What do you guys think about getting a new husky tr650?
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Commute isnt really a typical commute, approx 16-20 mim on all city roads.

What do you guys think about getting a new husky tr650?
In my experience your commute is in the window of sumo comfort. I found anything longer than 15min, and my butt was sore. It was a good 15 min though!

Once you go sumo, regular bikes will bore you. Kinda like cars...

I found real sumo's like the Husqvarna SM to be better value than the drz. I like the drz, but for just a little more money the euro trash Husky or KTM's are a lot more bang for the buck.

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What do you guys think about getting a new husky tr650?
Dual sport, not an SM and it is a Kymco Motor farmed out by BMW - Husky Italian aspect is 2010 and older

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I love this bike.

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Commute isnt really a typical commute, approx 16-20 mim on all city roads.

What do you guys think about getting a new husky tr650?
Not really a tard , its a dualsport , but really only limited by the wheel sizes .
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Since we are all talking I might as well throw out that a KTM 690 Fuel injected bike is NOT the most tinker free bike out there. Quite the opposite. Though it seems that most big singles (or sumo twins) all seem to suffer from some sort of maintenance issues.
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Since we are all talking I might as well throw out that a KTM 690 Fuel injected bike is NOT the most tinker free bike out there. Quite the opposite. Though it seems that most big singles (or sumo twins) all seem to suffer from some sort of maintenance issues.
They only suffer because we modify them . Once you get the mapping right , you're golden .
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yeah that is one reason i was looking into the DRZ reliable, low maintenance, and I have a bad habit of modifying the shit out of everything haha
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I found anything longer than 15min, and my butt was sore. It was a good 15 min though!
nonsense. Maybe it depends on the amount of ass fat I have but I can ride all day with no problem.
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They only suffer because we modify them . Once you get the mapping right , you're golden .
Well that the CCT sucks, foggy dash issue and the crappy fuel pump that disintegrates. And it isn't the mapping but the throttle voltages (2) that were out of whack on mine. It's a finicky beast. Say what you want.

The DRZ would ultimately be more user friendly.

Unless it's green.
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Well that the CCT sucks, foggy dash issue and the crappy fuel pump that disintegrates. And it isn't the mapping but the throttle voltages (2) that were out of whack on mine. It's a finicky beast. Say what you want.

The DRZ would ultimately be more user friendly.

Unless it's green.
You are only looking at the 690SM Bro - That LC4 Motor has been bullet proof for years - The Beeker was a step child in its own category since day one

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For the commute you mentioned any real motard will be fine. It might take a couple rides for ur ass to get use to the shitty seat but thats about it. They make aftermarket padding and seats for all bikes. I rode another tard for a bit with an aftermarket seat and it was night and day compared to my stock seat on the Aprilia SXV 550.
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I've ridden my XR650R for days on end in fact it's my only street bike.Keep in mind this is the watercooled Race model and not the L.If it can win Baja it can handle some hwy use.

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