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The Sumo Track Form Thread

everyone, post your pics and be made fun of! I'll go first:

these pics are from my first day riding supermoto at the track, last year at norway. I don't really know what the hell I'm doing, I mostly just look at pics of fast dudes and try to emulate their style.

this year I think I'm riding about the same. I did start scooting back on the seat just a little, and instead of keeping my inside leg straight, I keep it bent with my knee behind the bar.
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everyone, post your pics and be made fun of! I'll go first:

these pics are from my first day riding supermoto at the track, last year at norway. I don't really know what the hell I'm doing, I mostly just look at pics of fast dudes and try to emulate their style.

this year I think I'm riding about the same. I did start scooting back on the seat just a little, and instead of keeping my inside leg straight, I keep it bent with my knee behind the bar.
Well from what Chase told me, you want to be way up on the front wheel with your foot near the front axle. A really interesting point he mentioned was that the foot out is NOT for the same purpose as the knee-out in roadracing. The latter, the knee is used as a lean gauge and as a saving device. He said the foot out is for neither purpose, but rather to move more weight out over the front.
I don't claim to know anything myself, just relating what I was told.

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im stuck on mx style since thats all ive ever really ran, these are from i think my 2nd time sumoing, as you can tell i run elbows up leg out. i ride with my nuts almost on the gas cap, i i could drop them in the tank it would be great, i dont know if thats the right way to run but i think with guys like Ward, dymond and henry being the top riders it might be the way to go. one thing that the elbows up help with is forcing me to use my shoulders instead of my arms, in mx if you ride using your arms you will get tired alot easier, i also hold my grip in a modified golf grip, which forces my elbows up. The other thing is weighting my outside peg in the corners it helps me with keeping the rear end from sliding. Like i said i dont know if its the correct technique but it seems to work for me right now, i dont get tired out there as easy and if we get on a dirt section i know it will help me. now i just have to learn better road race lines, i come into the corners way to tight like they are mx tracks which i know is slowing me down.
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as you get to the faster longer turns where a road racer would be skimming their pucks..are you pushing the bike down and on the outside of the seat

an example (If I remember correctly at norway) there is sort of a high(er) speed long left turn section before a short straight and very slow sharp right. (5 & 6?)


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some people do switch to RR style for 5 and 6 at norway. I tried that a few times and didn't like how it felt, so I ride it foot out like normal.

try it both ways and see which one you like better
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I'm relatively happy with the riding form in the pictures at Shawano but I need to remember to get the elbows up a bit more. FYI - I let a couple other guys ride the bike in practice so the entire folder isn't just me on the bike.

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I'm punting you and Bill off the track next time we ride.

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Yeah, I was kinda thinking that after looking at the fast guys during the course of the weekend. I tried making an effort to keep 'em up, but ended up not thinking about it and just thought about trying to ride faster.

My question is "why?" What is the reason for elbows up. I assume there is one, but I can't figure it out.

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You look good for a asphalt guy! Your coming around. When your back up here take a MX class with us.
Gonna be at FVOR on Saturday. The only 'tard there on slicks (pun intended)

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Yeah, I was kinda thinking that after looking at the fast guys during the course of the weekend. I tried making an effort to keep 'em up, but ended up not thinking about it and just thought about trying to ride faster.

My question is "why?" What is the reason for elbows up. I assume there is one, but I can't figure it out.
Rob, Get in the "Front Leaning rest position" Youre familiar with that one, As a Jar head you guys were always in that position "Blowin Squids" Crank out 50 pushups, put your elbows close to your sides and hold it in that position, then switch your elbow position and place them out perpendicular to you body make a T and hold it there while using more of your shoulders instead of your Triceps. What muscles tire more easily? Same Principle with MX.
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Rob, Get in the "Front Leaning rest position" Youre familiar with that one, As a Jar head you guys were always in that position "Blowin Squids" Crank out 50 pushups, put your elbows close to your sides and hold it in that position, then switch your elbow position and place them out perpendicular to you body make a T and hold it there while using more of your shoulders instead of your Triceps. What muscles tire more easily? Same Principle with MX.
interesting.... As I ride now, my shoulders get way more pump than my arms do.

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interesting.... As I ride now, my shoulders get way more pump than my arms do.
try clamping the tank more with your legs, squeeze it. when standing use your knees and legs to clamp and tighten your abs, you will use less energy in your arms.Are your bars set up high or low. Sometimes if they are too high or low that could make it worse.

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Are your balls in the Jar above the bed yet?
you worry me Tony, always asking about my balls.
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you worry me Tony, always asking about my balls.

Im just collecting data for a study to get the avg mean time from when guys get married to the period of time when the balls get removed and thrown into " The jar above the bed"
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she's allowed to put them in her mouth, that's about it. no jarring, canning, or carrying them in her purse allowed.
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she's allowed to put them in her mouth, that's about it. no jarring, canning, or carrying them in her purse allowed.
Youre still in the denial period, being newly married and all. It will happen one day. Youre going to wake up and BAM they are gone. I kinda reminds me of the people who lived in New Orleans on the other side of the 10ft wall right at sea level. Total Denial.

" eyes knot goin no wear, Cata gorie wat - feyeve, Sheeit no Cata gorie feyeve huurikane stoerm is gonna get over that wall. look at it -sheeit its taller then mutha fukin Shakqille ookneel. No whattas gittin ovr dat!" plus eyes got a attic in my gran mammas house!
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