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Interesting Read

I cut this paragraph from a review of a bike I was reading I found it interesting,

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The subject of the conversation was the type of bike that would dominate Palomar. Specifically, I offered the opinion that Jeff Ward on his Honda CRF450R-based supermoto race bike (Ward, a motocross legend here in the United States, has become one of the fastest supermoto riders in the world and a U.S. champion in his mid-40s) could beat a road racing champion (name anyone you like, even Valentino Rossi)on a road race bike from the base of Mt. Palomar to the top. The consensus? The talented supermoto star would win, hands down. In this environment, supermotos are simply too light and nimble for anything else to compete (with the possible exception of a two-stroke GP bike).
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speaking of supermoto sliding vs. road racing, how can you tell when a given turn would be faster to slide through it or lean? All i can think of is to try it and compare lap times and maybe exit speed?

I'm thinking maybe the fact that you'd have more control over your sliding if you slide up a hill vs. down. But the roadracing bike would have a lower center of gravity, giving it the ability to accelerate faster without flipping as compared to a sumo

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I have a simple mathematical answer for that question:

Supermoto > anything else





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Joey Dunlop would win on any bike. Possible exception of two stroke GP bikes??? But of course!
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my 2 cents.... i trully respect Wardy but if you put both of them on sumos, Valentino would WIN.... ROAD RACING AND SUMO like apples to oranges
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Of the two disciplines, I would think that SuMo is much more suited to a tight, switchback style hill climb. Spread it out more (like a well paved Pikes Peak for instance) and I think the GP bike would be more competitive on motor alone.

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speaking of supermoto sliding vs. road racing, how can you tell when a given turn would be faster to slide through it or lean? All i can think of is to try it and compare lap times and maybe exit speed?

I'm thinking maybe the fact that you'd have more control over your sliding if you slide up a hill vs. down. But the roadracing bike would have a lower center of gravity, giving it the ability to accelerate faster without flipping as compared to a sumo

my answer...is no answer, just more questions`
sliding into a corner is very small part portion of the advantages gained from a SM bike. super light weight = late braking, great acceleration, lightning quick direction changes. add to that nearly unlimited lean angles and manageable power and you've got a bike that stops, turns, and a hooks up like no other
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