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Dammit your gonna make me pull my sign out.


Ducati doesn't make supermoto bikes.

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Ducati doesn't make supermoto bikes.
The Hypermotard can do that




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and if you get the NCR Leggere, it lighter than a DRZ SM with 4x the HP

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/03nov...cr_leggera.htm

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Ducati doesn't make supermoto bikes.
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Just cause ruben xaus can ride one like motard doenst make it a motard.

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Just cause ruben xaus can ride one like motard doenst make it a motard.
if a DRZ at 321 lbs is a motard, than the NCR at 308 is a motard




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Here you go Rob

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermoto

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In the spring of 2006, Italian bike manufacturer Ducati announced their entry in the class with the "Hypermotard" machine which has more in common with streetfighter-type motorcycles than realistically being considered a true supermoto bike capable of surviving jumps and crashes

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if a DRZ at 321 lbs is a motard, than the NCR at 308 is a motard



Bill how many DRZ's can you buy for the NCRs $66000 Price Tag?

At least you can jump a DRZ.

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I've tested that. The Hypermotard is very crashable

And the HM has 6.5" of suspension travel, that's motard like. I'd jump it.

And it did win, on dirt, at Pikes peak.

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(btw, you guys realize I'm merely arguing for the sake of argument....I've said on any number of occasion the HM is not a real 'tard (but neither is the DRZ ))

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(btw, you guys realize I'm merely arguing for the sake of argument....I've said on any number of occasion the HM is not a real 'tard (but neither is the DRZ ))
Your gonna be doing that for a living why not get some practice on us saps.

Yeah I knew you just wanted to have discussion. Just like I really just wanted to post my photoshop picture.

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(but neither is the DRZ ))
excuse me? are you trying to piss me&Bill off?
just because it's heavy doesn't mean it's not rideable

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Your gonna be doing that for a living why not get some practice on us saps.

Yeah I knew you just wanted to have discussion. Just like I really just wanted to post my photoshop picture.
I just wanted to post the Xaus pic.

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excuse me? are you trying to piss me&Bill off?
just because it's heavy doesn't mean it's not rideable


One could say the same thing about the HM

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I must say that I'd love to try to jump the HM. Try it out at a bigger sm track with smaller table jumps...
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I must say that I'd love to try to jump the HM. Try it out at a bigger sm track with smaller table jumps...
So would I, it'd make for a great photo op. I'd really like to try it with an NCR. Being 90lbs lighter would help, and I'd just love to say that I jumped a $66K motorcycle


and the VDB is one of the most 'tards ever.

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if a DRZ at 321 lbs is a motard, than the NCR at 308 is a motard

308 lbs for that bike is insane!

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Bill how many DRZ's can you buy for the NCRs $66000 Price Tag?
18 1/3


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(btw, you guys realize I'm merely arguing for the sake of argument....I've said on any number of occasion the HM is not a real 'tard (but neither is the DRZ ))
I've got a plausible plan to get the DRZ down to 270 lb in race trim, still using the stock wheels. I think that probably puts it in the ballpark with the husky and the aprilia, but still a far cry from the real MX bikes and the ktm's
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308 lbs for that bike is insane!



18 1/3




I've got a plausible plan to get the DRZ down to 270 lb in race trim, still using the stock wheels. I think that probably puts it in the ballpark with the husky and the aprilia, but still a far cry from the real MX bikes and the ktm's
thats only about 25-30 more than my 525. so that pretty respectable.

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thats only about 25-30 more than my 525. so that pretty respectable.
now if I could only find 25 extra free HP!
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Bill your putting your DRZ in a KTM frame like you talked about earlier.

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now if I could only find 25 extra free HP!
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Bill your putting your DRZ in a KTM frame like you talked about earlier.
I'm building a frame out of balsa wood

seriously though, you can drop a ton of weight by removing all the street stuff. the drz K model only weighs around 250 stock.
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Ya, VDB would be ultimate hotness. But with prices on those creeping to 26K plus for an 09 that's a little too much for me. I could put a lot of $$ into my ape for that.

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I'm building a frame out of balsa wood

seriously though, you can drop a ton of weight by removing all the street stuff. the drz K model only weighs around 250 stock.
What's a good way to check the weight of your bike? I wonder how far I've gone with the DRZ diet..
Next on the list is a Ti pipe and a kick start kit so I can get rid of the battery.
I'm hoping to find K model cases on eBay so I can get rid of the starter as well.
That way it should weigh a less than the stock kicker.

Bill, any chance you want my pipe? The stocker weighs a ton compared to my full yosh.
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What's a good way to check the weight of your bike? I wonder how far I've gone with the DRZ diet..
Next on the list is a Ti pipe and a kick start kit so I can get rid of the battery.
I'm hoping to find K model cases on eBay so I can get rid of the starter as well.
That way it should weigh a less than the stock kicker.

Bill, any chance you want my pipe? The stocker weighs a ton compared to my full yosh.
which yosh is it? if I get one, I want one with a removable insert/spark arrester like the RS2. a totally uncorked yosh is just too loud for my tastes.

you don't need the K cases to remove the starter. you can just plug the hole after you take it out. removing the starter and battery is about 10 lbs, but you add a few back with the kickstart mechanism. I'm planning to order the kickstart kit today.

you can use a bathroom scales to get a good idea of the weight. put the front tire on the scales, then the rear, and add the two togehter. or use two scales at the same time. obviously the best method is to find someone who has a large shipping scales that you can roll the bike on.
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