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Does anyone have a cam degreeing kit I could borrow?
Or I could even bring the motor over so the kit doesn't have to leave your house. I doubt I'll be doing this soon again so I don't want to spend $100 on it.
If you help me out, I'll bring some beers over or whatever you wish.
I can also promise I'll let you pass me even with the new 470
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You have slotted sprokets ?or is it pressed on .

What did you change to concern this?or are you in persuit of a power move?

This kit you speak of is nothing more than a refferance dial on the crankshaft and an indicator on the cam or rocker.

After finding the top of cam lob, TDC,and then using a piece card board over crank shaft end
The bigger a dia.circle of carb board will offer more acuracy

Circumfrence =2*3.14*radius Then devide by 360 mark the round cardboard at any referance then mark this distance a few times BTDC and ATDC then rotate desired deg. and tighten bolts on cam .

Remove indicator rotate crank a few revs. and check piston TDC and the indicator should show new crank referance.
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I know the process of degreeing cams, I don't have the equipment. That's why I'm asking here.
I'm turning my DRZ into a 470 which includes using a 2.5mm thick cylinder spacer.
That changes cam timing which consequently needs to be adjusted.
I have Hotcams with adjustable sprockets.
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Seems to me if you truly knew you'd have the tools.

Sorry to bore you with unneeded advice .

Go to harber fraight and buy the indicator then cut a wheel out of cardboard .All the beer in the world won't be using MY tools. cheep skate

About that passing thing! I'll give you my tools if it can beat my Enduro

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Seems to me if you truly knew you'd have the tools.

Sorry to bore you with unneeded advice .

Go to harber fraight and buy the indicator then cut a wheel out of cardboard .All the beer in the world won't be using MY tools. cheep skate

About that passing thing! I'll give you my tools if it can beat my Enduro
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I'm the jag off with the tools

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apparently so. If I was Daniel I'd tell you what you could do with your tools too.
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apparently so. If I was Daniel I'd tell you what you could do with your tools too.
tools, especially good ones are expensive. Id guard em like resurection is as well

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I offered sound advice on how to make the wheel and would have offered more had he not replied as such .

I've performed dozens of FREE for BEER services .Using MY tools and SKILLS .His contemptuous reply leaves him with neither .

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.His contemptuous reply leaves him with neither .
I doubt that his remark was meant to be condescending.

"I know the process of degreeing cams, I don't have the equipment. That's why I'm asking here"

he just wants to borrow some fucking tools. why you gotta be so sensitive?
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Seems to me if you truly knew you'd have the tools.

Sorry to bore you with unneeded advice .

Go to harber fraight and buy the indicator then cut a wheel out of cardboard .All the beer in the world won't be using MY tools. cheep skate

About that passing thing! I'll give you my tools if it can beat my Enduro
Wow, I guess that was the last time I tried to seek some help on this forum.
If somebody asked me for help, I'd help him in a heartbeat.
Was your attitude really necessary?
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Knowing Dongie he had no intentions of being condescending. Daniel is the most humble individual I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. His opening comment was directed to his Supermoto Brothers, basically even with the 470 motor he will still be slow.

Oh and Daniel doesn't cheap out on the beers he brings some hi-class fancy shit!

Daniel I wish I could help you out, I would have no hesitation loaning you one if I had it.

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Wow, I guess that was the last time I tried to seek some help on this forum.
Don't get bitter yet you know who your people are, someone from outside the group just happened upon this thread. (plus its hard to read sarcasm) Before this gets out of hand I think we (all of us) just need to cool it. I really don't want to see tnat get all riled up.

If I had the extra money right now I would buy one just to let you borrow it.

Shoot me a message tomorrow I'll check to see what my cost is on the setup. (we closed today because of how fricken cold it is)

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I really don't want to see tnat get all riled up.
yeah, nobody wants to see that. ok, maybe Joe does, but I'd rather not think about it.
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yeah, nobody wants to see that. ok, maybe Joe does, but I'd rather not think about it.

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Does the word "Stuffed" Mean anything to you guys?

Look it up! Get used to It for 2009 -
if you block pass me in your dreams you'd better wake up and apologize!

and be ready for the Mike Alessi style brake checks!
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I won't get bitter over this. Let's keep it cool here.
Maybe I should just buy the kit and next time somebody needs it, I can hook them up.
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if you block pass me in your dreams you'd better wake up and apologize!

and be ready for the Mike Alessi style brake checks!
That wont be hard, youll be riding the brakes the whole track!

Daniel dont sweat it, I guess the dude didnt get his morning special at the Glory Hole at the truck stop today!

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this is dumb...

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I think I'll need a positive stop, too.
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I did loose my cool a bit sorry

Some new guy ? in your group I've been offering good tech here a while now and seems it's the lack of a thankyou or at least a followup posting .I more often get these types of replys .

"I knew this or that" and no thanks.

It's kind of like our wifes.

The cardboard disc could cost nothing and he may have an indacator .

I didn't say he couldn't borrow or come to use mine .He just replyed as "I know all "instead of following through with my offer to help and maybe ask if I would offer the use of my tools

The jag off thing set me off, after that I was in for the whole ball of wax .

Im sorry for loosing my cool .

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Let's just drop it. My post was short and descriptive and you took it in a wrong way. I certainly didn't mean to sound ungreatful.

I'll either buy the kit as I'd like to learn to do it by myself or will have Eddie S. do it for a fee. I need to clearance my piston for the stroker as well anyway. I could just have him do it all. I was just hoping to expand my tech skills a bit..
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Cool that's my goal also.

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with a spacer you'll want to check the stud nuts for enough thread contact and flash heat any copper gaskets with a torch that might be part of the kit .

how thick do they want the clay to be above the piston?

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