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moto gp 08 worth it?

just got a new ps3 and Im into racing games. Should I get this moto gp 08 now or should i wait for the moto gp 09?

Are you guys still playing this online? Will this game help your driving skills?

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I'd say pick it up. It's a lot of fun, take's a little while to get smooth with the controls, especially on the harder settings. I don't know of any plans to do an 09 or 10 release of the game, so just get this one. I haven't played online really, but then again I haven't done a whole lot with gaming online before so can't tell you much about that one.

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get it. its better than 07. also, dont forget WSK. another great game

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will it help your riding skills? not of you want to live! it will really only help with focusing and visualization, other then that like other bike games it's really not close to the real thing.

MGP08 and SBK08 are worth getting especially since both can be purchased for under $20. Aside from the licenses, they are both pretty much the same game, with SBK having more advanced features. Since SBK came out first it has more bugs and longer load times. MGP08 is more stripped down in an attempt to be more accesible. Both are made by Milestone who did the SBK games for EA Sports between 1998-2001

Online play for both is average at best and lack most of the modes that are common in online racers these days. Of the two MGP08 is the better. There are some good/fast racers around, but unfortunately they are out numbered by dumbasses who think racing is taking people out.

As with the online mode offline mode can be a bit boring/frustrating unless you just like putting in laps in time trail mode. Both game lack a lot of common race game features and suffer from horrific and dry game design and presentation. Of the 2 SBK plays better, but MGP08 is slightly more refined even though you don't have as many options. The AI for both is pretty bad

As for waiting for MotoGP 09/10, it really depends on what type of gamer you are. That game is being developed by ex-members of Climax who did the THQ MotoGP games for the Xbox. It's going to be heavily geared toward the arcade side, so if you are looking for realism you are SOL. From the vids of it they are bring along the Climax trademark Jet ski handling which is nothing like a motorcycle behaves. Again the focus of this game is arcade simple fun and they are going decidedly retro with it.

On the other had SBK X is coming out later in the Spring and they are going for more realism. SBK X (like SBK 09) most likely isn't coming out in the US but can be found on Ebay. the PS3 is region free so imports can be played wihtout problems.

SBK X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheUb...layer_embedded
MGP09/10 http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ce...gp-09-10/60656
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I didn't like any of the GP games. The control dynamics are just wierd, and the AI is ridiculous.

The 2010 game is supposed to be really good.

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I didn't like any of the GP games. The control dynamics are just wierd, and the AI is ridiculous.

The 2010 game is supposed to be really good.
I don't know exactly what you are refering to when you say tou didn't like any of the GP games, so it's kind of hard to respond directly so I'll do so in general turns.

The biggest problem with most bike games is the simple fact that they don't act like bikes. They seem to be dumbed down to try and be accessible and end of playing like crap. They act more like cars then bikes. because of this if you actually know how to ride a bike then it can be hard because you can't try to apply real world bike logic to the games because it won't work.

To date most bike games still have the braking dynamics wrong, the games are rear brake bias, when we know in the real world it should be front brake bias. And they make the brakes far to weak. Additionally they make the bikes insanely unstable when it comes to slow speed turning.

The AI, well what can I say it pretty much sucks as we all know. Unfortunately while car games have moved forward for the most part devs still don't know what to do with bike games because they keep trying to make it a mass market item when it isn't. So they keep tweaking the physics making something that should be smooth and simple, jerky and complex.

When you say "the next one should be good" I hope you aren't referring to the next MotoGP game MGP 09/10. As I stated before it has gone 10 steps backwards and with arcade style gameplay from over 20yrs ago. I mean if you want an arcade bike game where the bikes don't handle like bikes, but like Jet skis then yeah I guess it will be great.

The best bike game sense EA stopped the SBK series was Tourist Trophy on the PS2. While the game wasn't perfect, it did better then any other recent game. Hopefully there will be a Tourist Trophy 2 that is an actual full game and not just a tech demo. But until that is actually confirmed as happening, I'm betting on Milestones SBK X for a more realistic bike experience. Their recent games haven't been perfect but at least they are trying and moving forward instead of backwards.

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I should have clarified...I was referring to the 360/PS3 level MotoGP games. I have the first two, and didn't like either one. I had Tourist Trophy and pretty much every other motorcycle game since Excitebike and (ahhh, what was that first one on Genesis called!? ).

For me, the GP games for 360 were/are just no fun. I hope they get it right with the pending version, which is supposed to be a completely revamped effort. For motorcycle games, I really don't care about accurate physics as much as fun-factor. There's just too much complexity in controlling a motorcycle (IMO) to accurately portray in a video game...when they've gone sim, they really lack playability. I would prefer an arcade style game with lots of 'atmosphere' and some real fun game play rather than a physically accurate representation of riding a motorcycle...how do you do that, really, in a video game?? I think that's where some have gotten it wrong.

I'm not saying abandon Motorcycle physics, just give us something playable! (i.e., tourist trophy-ish)

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...and you are correct, this is the game I'm referring to:

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/143/14344220.html

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Yeah then you'll definately enjoy MGP09/10 cause it's gone complete arcade. And that game for the genesis was Hang On. I've had pretty much all of them also.

The problem isn't that the games have gone sim, it's that they keep taking liberties with the physics. Real doesn't mean hard. And there is no reason a sim can't be fun. I don't think doing good realistic bike physics is any harder then anything else. But devs seem to think that means making some hard complex game when it doesn't. Believe me I'm not into insanely complex sims, but I'd at least to have a bike game that somewhat remotely handles like a bike

Tourist Trophy isn't really an easy game, but it is fun and rewarding so it makes it worth the effort.
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^^I completely agree with everything in your post, and see things pretty much the same way. I guess I've given up on their ability to create a balanced sim, so give me arcade

And Hang On ruled! (In 1991)

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freakin Hang On still rocks!!! I still got my copy of it. lol. My favorite bike games (aside from Tourist Trophy) are all over 10years old and that's pretty sad. I'd rather play the Namco MotoGP games instead of the THQ/Climax ones because at least they didn't slide around like I was on a jet ski..... They just keep trying to reinvent wheel when they don't have to

But hhmmm what were the others
Manx TT thought it was cool and fun
MotoRacer (the first one). ditto as above
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GP500/MotoGP -Namco's arcade classics, great. Got this for the PSP still fun.
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Bah, what was the other for Playstation 2, just before TT....hold please. Shit graphics but pretty fun.

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Got it...Riding Spirits!! It was Tourist Trophy before Tourist Trophy. I was nuts into Gran Tourismo when this game came out so it hit the spot big time.

http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Riding%2...M7MoUOlqvOotUE

...and yeah, the older GP games were fantastic.

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RS Riding Spirits had that one also

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Thanks for all the info. I just got my MotoGP08 yesterday and I love it. I need more practice do before I can play online. Any1 still playing this online? My screename "Chazbaby_R6".
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Just picked it up sunday. From some reviews of 09/10, its not one people recommend. They recommend 08 or get SBK

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