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Cool Wiring requirements **change in policy**

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there are new wiring requirements per stt policy.

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advanced riders only must safety wire oil drain plugs, oil filter and oil fill caps.
intermediate must have a minimum of rtv or silicone dab on the oil drain plugs and oil filter.
** please note that if you spill oil on the track your day is over.

This change in policy will decrease the likelihood of an oil related issue on the track which can ruin everyones day in attendance.

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This should be the policy for anyone on the track. Sucks that it isn't
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j/k this makes a lot of sense to me, althought it needs to be done right, the wire needs to prevent the bolt from rotating...

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I am going to assume safety wiring them will supersede the rtv requirement.

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I am going to assume safety wiring them will supersede the rtv requirement.


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Good revision!

disclaimer: I think ALL groups should have this. The Novice/Beginner groups spill oil also, the only difference is how far off the track they go once they slide.

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Potentially ignorant question but how hard is it to scrape off the old RTV/Silicon when changing the oil?

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Potentially ignorant question but how hard is it to scrape off the old RTV/Silicon when changing the oil?
Not hard at all, almost peels off.

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I haven't had time to drill my drain plug yet and I leave for Barber this Friday. What do the rules mean by "dab"? A little dab of RTV silicone on one spot to keep it from rotating or do I have to go all the way around it with RTV?

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Not hard at all, almost peels off.
I did my 1098 plug like that a while back and cleand the surrounding very well and a year later I still try to get the RVT off every time I cange the oil...
I'd safety wire that shit and be done with it...

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I haven't had time to drill my drain plug yet and I leave for Barber this Friday. What do the rules mean by "dab"? A little dab of RTV silicone on one spot to keep it from rotating or do I have to go all the way around it with RTV?
All the way around, to make sure it stays...

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I did my 1098 plug like that a while back and cleand the surrounding very well and a year later I still try to get the RVT off every time I cange the oil...
I'd safety wire that shit and be done with it...
Jeebus, how much did you put on, a whole tube?

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Crap. I just changed my oil. So, does this mean that I have to take out the drain plug and put RTV around the inside to create a seal, or can I put the RTV on the outside of the plug, sealing it to the case?

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Crap. I just changed my oil. So, does this mean that I have to take out the drain plug and put RTV around the inside to create a seal, or can I put the RTV on the outside of the plug, sealing it to the case?
You should for sure put it all up on the inside, just push half a tube of the stuff up your drain plug hole.








seriously bro, it goes on the outside. better yet, drill the plug for wire and do it right.

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Potentially ignorant question but how hard is it to scrape off the old RTV/Silicon when changing the oil?
Easy. You'll want to clean with a contact cleaner before applying the RTV though.

Its easy enough to safety wire the drain bolt when you do a oil change.
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Ha.

If I have time before then, I'll just drill it but, if I don't have time, i'm just making sure I'm keeping within the rules.

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You should for sure put it all up on the inside, just push half a tube of the stuff up your drain plug hole.








seriously bro, it goes on the outside. better yet, drill the plug for wire and do it right.

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drilling the bolt can be done on the bike but its a bitch and a half, also dont just blindly drill the bolt, think about where you are going to tie to inorder to have the wire pulling the bolt tight once its in place, then drill the bolt

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Ha.

If I have time before then, I'll just drill it but, if I don't have time, i'm just making sure I'm keeping within the rules.

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like they said, it's just so much easier to safety wire it.

if you have enough drills, just do it on the bike. yes, that's how i did it when i took out my street bike. one bit might not be enough

for the filter, buy a big hose clamp at auto zone. $.99 or so.

the oil cap is made of plastic and you can drill thru it with a tooth pick

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Thanks. I've got the filler cap and the filter done, but I didn't drill the plug. I just moved and I don't know where my drill is...

I know it's the best choice to just SW it. I'm just not sure I'll have it done in time for Barber on Saturday....

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I thought it was already a rule to have it safety wired in "I", I did that as soon as I got bumped to I.

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Potentially ignorant question but how hard is it to scrape off the old RTV/Silicon when changing the oil?
A bitch. and it looks like sh!t also. Buy a bike form an old racer and try to peel that crap off. Its not to easy.
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Thanks. I've got the filler cap and the filter done, but I didn't drill the plug. I just moved and I don't know where my drill is...

I know it's the best choice to just SW it. I'm just not sure I'll have it done in time for Barber on Saturday....

Chad jsut silicone it. Next time you change the oil drill it out. Its a bitch to do it on the bike. Yes it can be done as i just did Marrs and I have done my KTM at the track but you will go through a couple of bits
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Thanks, Steve. That's the way I'm leaning. I'll have to change my oil after barber and jennings anyway....I can drill it then

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My bike came safety wired to the hilt. From the bolts on the brake calipers, drain plug, coolant cap, grips, pinch bolts on the front axle, to the fuckin bolt on the rear axle.

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A bitch. and it looks like sh!t also. Buy a bike form an old racer and try to peel that crap off. Its not to easy.
I used a 3m silicone before I safety wired all my shit, and I was able to peel it off nicely - I guess using a high quality, high heat silicone makes a difference.

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I thought it was already a rule to have it safety wired in "I", I did that as soon as I got bumped to I.
nope it was recommended and urged but not required
mine was done while i was still in N and i keep adding more when im bored

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I used a 3m silicone before I safety wired all my shit, and I was able to peel it off nicely - I guess using a high quality, high heat silicone makes a difference.
or... your bike was all greasy and dirty and the silicone didnt stick worth a shit

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I used a 3m silicone before I safety wired all my shit, and I was able to peel it off nicely - I guess using a high quality, high heat silicone makes a difference.
That must be it... mine still sticks all over the bike...

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