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Microsoft vs Xbox 360 reliability accusations

I refuse to buy an XBox, but I know they're popular around here.

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/...ations/1274293

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Fix would have cost 50c per machine, suit claims
By Mike Smith

Remember last week's story about Jason Johnson, the Illinois man who sued Microsoft over his Xbox 360's alleged habit of scratching his game DVDs?

Documents unsealed in his court case revealed Microsoft discovered its Xbox 360 could scratch discs before it went on sale in 2005, and even got as far as considering three possible solutions to the problem, the Seattle Tech Report revealed today.

The characteristic circular scratches can occur whenever the orientation of the console -- which is designed to be used in either a horizontal or vertical position -- is changed while the drive is spinning. Johnson filed his suit after his console scratched three store-bought game discs, and is seeking $50,000 in punitive damages.

Testimony obtained from a Microsoft program manager indicates that Microsoft became aware of the problem months before the 360's launch when retail demonstration consoles malfunctioned. The company examined three solutions: strengthening the magnets that hold the discs in place, slowing the rotational speed of the discs, and installing rubber bumpers to cushion the discs, but rejected them all. Installing the bumpers could have cost as little as $0.50 per console, the suit claims.

It's not the first time Microsoft has come under fire for alleged foreknowledge of Xbox 360 hardware issues, either. Back in September, an expose penned by VentureBeat writer Dean Takahashi claimed systemic failures in Microsoft's design and quality assurance processes lead to the Xbox 360's now-infamous overheating "Red Ring of Death" failures.
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I believe Xbox says in instructions and in online support not to move the console with a disc in it. To me it makes sense anyhow. I'm more concerned about the overheating issues. This is my 3rd xbox. I doubt I'll buy another if it happens again.

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who switches the orientation of an optical drive while it has spinning contents? that's just silly.

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I don't understand moving the unit whilst the disc is spinning either. I'm in the middle of Halo and- oh wait, let me stand the console up? Common sense isn't so common...

The Ring of Death issues on this forum alone have convinced me not to touch an XBox 360. I was always going to wait for the PS3 though.

If only PS3 wasn't so expensive. I want HD gaming and my slim PS2 isn't cutting it.
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I don't understand moving the unit whilst the disc is spinning either. I'm in the middle of Halo and- oh wait, let me stand the console up? Common sense isn't so common...

The Ring of Death issues on this forum alone have convinced me not to touch an XBox 360. I was always going to wait for the PS3 though.

If only PS3 wasn't so expensive. I want HD gaming and my slim PS2 isn't cutting it.
That's where I'm at as well.

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+3. Why is the guy moving it while the disc is spinning. The instructions are very clear not to do that.

Would he sue if his Xbox failed after dunking it in the tub? I think the instructions say not to get it wet, too.

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Ian's got knocked over by the cat while we were playing Forza one day.. killed the disc.

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kill the cat.

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I hope he was cat sitting. Get a dog.
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I hope he was cat sitting. Get a dog.
Alison and I have been telling him that. he has never had a dog so he doesn't understand how they are WAYYY better than cats.

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I like to move spinning Hard drives in my hand, HDD with no valuable info, because it feels cool. Maybe this fool thought the same thing with the xbox, but wouldn't the suit have a better chance if he asked for the price of the xbox, game and maybe a little bit of cash for his troubles (regardless of IQ) instead of the 50 large? I think I answered my own question.

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I like to move spinning Hard drives in my hand, HDD with no valuable info, because it feels cool. Maybe this fool thought the same thing with the xbox, but wouldn't the suit have a better chance if he asked for the price of the xbox, game and maybe a little bit of cash for his troubles (regardless of IQ) instead of the 50 large? I think I answered my own question.
TMI weirdo.
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TMI weirdo.
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