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heated grips on a scooter

interested in putting heated grips on my zuma. how much power they pull? will the tiny electrical system handle it?

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http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Ride...d_grip_kit.htm

theres what I have on the Strada.




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36 watt pull? mmm interesting, and pretty cheap too. the zuma has tiny grips on it.. hopefully these fit.

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ya they are not as wide as normal grips. they should fit perfect. I also got the water proof toggle switch with mine.




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36w=3amps at 12v... mine has trouble charging the battery sometimes... youll be running off the battery primarily when at or close to idle.

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you crying about cold hands already? it's not even in the 40s.

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you crying about cold hands already? it's not even in the 40s.
mine doesn't have wind protection like yours!

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36w=3amps at 12v... mine has trouble charging the battery sometimes... youll be running off the battery primarily when at or close to idle.
Is this just rough on the scooter battery or would it put some stress on a regular bike too?

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I bet you could buy those parts for cheap.

and a 3a draw is pretty minimal, even considering the small charging system on the bike. most times a cell phone charger for your cigarette lighter has a 2 or 3 amp fuse in it to give you some type of comparison.

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Is this just rough on the scooter battery or would it put some stress on a regular bike too?
depends on how the MFG spec'd out the electrical system specifically the generator/alternator adn how much head room it has for generation above what the vehicle draws in stock form.

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I bet you could buy those parts for cheap.

and a 3a draw is pretty minimal, even considering the small charging system on the bike. most times a cell phone charger for your cigarette lighter has a 2 or 3 amp fuse in it to give you some type of comparison.
theyve got that fuse cause a short in that product will blow the fuse, the chargers dont draw nearly that much, they pull .5a approx

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i hooked up an extra high beam headlamp on the scooter, with no issues, i'm sure that pulls just as much as the heated grips, i could disconnect that when i'm using the heated grips and it should be ok.

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i hooked up an extra high beam headlamp on the scooter, with no issues, i'm sure that pulls just as much as the heated grips, i could disconnect that when i'm using the heated grips and it should be ok.
then were good, go for it, the buld is probably a 45 or 55w right?
putting it at 4-5 amps for the extra lanmp

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Buy some heated gloves instead maybe.
good thought, cause the grips only heat the inside of the hand, where the outside takes the cold breeze. Any links?
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Just installed a pair of symtec grip heaters today. Look very similar to the ones linked above.

I didn't take any measurements, but another cog member measured his out at 1.9A @ 14.2V on low and 3.37 @ 14.2V on high - this is with the bike running, so 27W and 48W respectively.

Riding around tonight with the same gloves as I've used last fall, my hands were relatively toasty. Finger tips is what usually got cold and numb. Still got cool, but not numb. We'll see what it's like when it gets into the 40's. Had I had full gear on, I'm sure tonight would of been very comfortable. Without the helmet and a recent hair cut, it did get a bit chilly.

I found running them on low was not enough, and kept it on high the whole ride.

I mounted mine similarly as here - http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/heatedgrips .
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If you ride your Zuma like I ride mine to work it is usually WFO most of the way to work just so I don't run over. Should charge just fine. Though with my stock wired headlight when I rev it it gets quite a bit brighter.

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If you ride your Zuma like I ride mine to work it is usually WFO most of the way to work just so I don't run over. Should charge just fine. Though with my stock wired headlight when I rev it it gets quite a bit brighter.
is there any other mode of operation

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Alex....pictures of the switch location please....I have to install the dual stars on a Vespa, looking for ideas.

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ya they are not as wide as normal grips. they should fit perfect. I also got the water proof toggle switch with mine.
Tony do the dual stars come with the water proof toggle switch now I have had mine on since 2005, standard toggle, and have floated thru build an ark type storms zero problems....in fact everyone I ride with have the standard toggle.

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If you ride your Zuma like I ride mine to work it is usually WFO most of the way to work just so I don't run over. Should charge just fine. Though with my stock wired headlight when I rev it it gets quite a bit brighter.
pretty much WOT is my commute

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found these;

http://cozywinters.com/shop/wg-mhlg.html

or they make just liners too;

http://cozywinters.com/shop/wg-phgl.html

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Small update on the grips I mentioned earlier. Got a chance to try 'em out good tonight from bike night.

According to the weather sites, it's ~50F outside. The heat provided by the grips was adequate. Not super warm (probably due to my thick grips), but enough to make a difference in comfort. My fingers did not go numb at all, and just the top of the hands were a bit cold. For $35, it was a worthwhile upgrade.

The bike/windshield took care of keeping the rest of me warm. Had I remembered to close the vents in the helmet, that would of been even better.
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check it.

http://www.scooterwest.com/item_deta...ed-Grips/1408/

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Eric, nice! i bet those are better than sticking an element under the grip too, prolly better heat transfer! nice, i might have to look into those.

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more espensive too

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Eric, nice! i bet those are better than sticking an element under the grip too, prolly better heat transfer! nice, i might have to look into those.
I'm still disappointed that their zuma125 section is "coming soon"

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