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Q: Jeep Grand Cherokee, el. helpers

So, I have a 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4, in the snow it kinda sucks... How can I disable all those helpers, I hit the ESP button and the light on the dash comes on, but I can still feel that it works, some what less than if its on, but still.
Also the ABS doesn't seem to be able to get killed...

In the snow I just like to be able to turn all this off...

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also, which model do you have? the limited models get the better 4wd setup over the base model ones.
its the limited...

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so does my 99 F150 4WD on snow and ice she'll do 95 confidently


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My Golf TDI used to haul ass in the snow... 8 years ago and 8000miles away... that doesn't help at the moment...

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Why does my 4Wd vehicle with old bald tires not convey my
cheap ass around like a slot-car when it snows ??




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Tires are a major factor. FWD, RWD, AWD, its in the tires. I have Firestone Winterforces on my 2WD S10 pickup with a locking differential, and no sand or weight in the bed the truck is the best vehicle in the snow that Ive ever driven. Its all in the tires.
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Why does my 4Wd vehicle with old bald tires not convey my
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not really.... I still like to be able to turn all this crab off, new tires or not...

and hey I found something hold the ESP button when stopped for 3 sec and the ESP will be off 100%... This gives me already more fun, now I need to look into the ABS.

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Tires are a major factor. FWD, RWD, AWD, its in the tires. I have Firestone Winterforces on my 2WD S10 pickup with a locking differential, and no sand or weight in the bed the truck is the best vehicle in the snow that Ive ever driven. Its all in the tires.
This man speaks the truth. My Tacoma X-Runner (lowered, RWD, LSD) with the stock Potenzas on it would not get any where last year. I would get stuck on the gentlest inclines with barely any snow on the ground.

Picked up a set of used Blizzacks this year as I don't have another car to steal this winter and it's night and day. I fly through traffic with ease. I have 200 lbs of sand in the bed though.

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So, I have a 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4, in the snow it kinda sucks... How can I disable all those helpers, I hit the ESP button and the light on the dash comes on, but I can still feel that it works, some what less than if its on, but still.
Also the ABS doesn't seem to be able to get killed...

In the snow I just like to be able to turn all this off...

TIA!

FYI ABS and ESP Improves snow driving abilities.
If you want to have fun disconnect abs fuse!

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If you want to have fun disconnect abs fuse!
If you lock your brakes on snow, you most likely slow down faster that if the ABS is working.

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Plus, in a spin if you lock the brakes your trajectory will remain about the same as it was. With ABS or unlocked brakes, you're headed whichever direction the vehicle is pointed.

Having that choice is a good thing.
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If you lock your brakes on snow, you most likely slow down faster that if the ABS is working.
this i do not agree with

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not really.... I still like to be able to turn all this crab off, new tires or not...

and hey I found something hold the ESP button when stopped for 3 sec and the ESP will be off 100%... This gives me already more fun, now I need to look into the ABS.
not true. but if its more fun for you.. enjoy

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Not sure here....

On mine you press the button and the esp-off light comes on on the dash.

You are then free to drive as sideways as you like.


No way to turn the ABS off.


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If you lock your brakes on snow, you most likely slow down faster that if the ABS is working.
negative, not with my g8 at least. The abs already doesn't work on my truck and it found one snow bank because 4wd may help you haul ace in the snow but it doesn't stop you.
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this i do not agree with
well pretty easy, what slides further down an incline?
a square ( your tire with snow infront of it, after its locked up) or a rund ( your tire still rotating with ABS..)

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Not sure here....

On mine you press the button and the esp-off light comes on on the dash.
You are then free to drive as sideways as you like.
No way to turn the ABS off.
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Well I pressed the ESP button, with the light on the dash off, and held it for a few seconds, a bing came and in the bottom of the das the display said "ESP OFF" after that I din't hear or feel any ESP contoll anymore.

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