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Where to get car transmission fixed or replaced

I have got a 02 acura TL that is suffering from transmission issues, basically jerking when going from 2nd to 3rd gear or sometimes it just goes into a neutral gear. I have already checked and my car does not qualify anymore for the recall that HOnda had for the TL's.
DOes anyone recommend a local place to get it checked out, fixed or replaced? What are my options. I definitely don't want to dump $2-3grand into an old car that has 120k miles on it.
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2002 is hardly old, and 120k isn't that many miles for an Acura. My moms Honda has 300k, and theres not a thing wrong with it. Unfortunately your car is not simple to repair, and your parts are not cheap. If your trans needs to be replaced, the cheapest route you could take is picking up a used trans and having it installed. you can search for one here... www.car-part.com

Any reputable shop is going to charge you at least 2-3 k for R&R with a rebuild.
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There was no recall on the transmission itself, there was a recall on some older TL's to have a jet kit installed to prevent failure of second gear due to lack of oil flow.

As others have said 120k on a TL is just a warm up, any decent transmission overhaul is going to cost you roughly 3g's. Our remans are roughly $2800 but come with a 3yr/36k warranty and unlike most aftermarket shops they do not reuse any of the existing parts other than the cases themselves.
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Aamco Transmission in Schaumburg IL, I used to work there, my buddies dad owns the shop. I can hook you up
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Those cars had lots of problems with trannys if I remember and some people were putting in honda Odyssey transmission where were better, but still not great.
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I've got a place by me. Do great work. But if you don't want to pay to fix the trans, what do you want for the car?

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I guess my options are limited since I dont want to spend a few grand to get the transmission fixed, but I also dont want to go out and get a newer car and start paying that damn mortgage.
I am reluctantly thinking my best option might be to find a reputable place that can do a good job with the transmission repair/replace for a reasonable cost. If the car can last another 80K, I would be very very happy
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Aamco Transmission in Schaumburg IL, I used to work there, my buddies dad owns the shop. I can hook you up
I went to a couple of Aamco's, i think one in Glen Ellyn and one in maybe Streamwood ?? They were quoting me around $2500 for the rebuild and then another $700 for 3yr/36k warranty or something like that.

Thanks for the offer, I will keep that in mind as I start to figure out what to do. The car is running and I have figured out a way to make it work for the past 15,000 miles with this ongoing issue, but its annoying and not to mention dangerous.
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Unfortunately for you those trannys are not cheap so you might be better off just selling it.
My friend had his fixed last year, I'll ask him what he paid and from where and report back.

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has the fluid ever been changed on it?
Yes, I did it when it first start to have the transmission glitch around 98k..
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Unfortunately for you those trannys are not cheap so you might be better off just selling it.
My friend had his fixed last year, I'll ask him what he paid and from where and report back.
I appreciate your help.
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He said expect it to be 2500-3500. Sorry.

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I work on these cars for a living... These trannies fail, their life expectancy is around 50k miles on average. The "improved" rebuilds seem to last longer but most people stop coming into the dealer for repairs when the cars get that old. It's rare to see a car 03 or older now..

You can take it to a tranny shop and get a rebuild done for around 2k... If you haven't done so yet the timing belt is overdue too. I just got a MDX that launched a timing belt due to neglect... So you are faced with a decision here: how much do you love your TransLauncher (internal name in Acura-dome for TLs). dealer installed price on one with 3/36 warranty will be around 3500 bux maybe more depending if it needs a new PCM with updated shift programs. Add in a timing belt for 800-1000 bux at shop/dealer. Car isn't worth the repairs at that point. With so many 0% interest deals on new cars, I would pick up a cheap ride for around 16-17k and drive it.

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I, unfortunately, have the same car, 03 TL-S. My trans started slipping in 3rd gear around 70k miles. I actually got it to last until 105k, then it had to be rebuilt. There is a shop here in Joliet that does these all the time. The guy spent a LOT of time with me explaining what goes wrong, and what he does to fix them. I couldn't afford him, and had to use another, less expensive shop in the area. Even after explaining this to him, he still helped me out, explaining some things. The other shop tried to rip me off for a $900 torque converter, but after discussing things with the owner of the shop I couldn't afford, I was able to negotiate the converter down to $350 with the new shop.

The more expensive shop replaces all the parts that need to be replaced, as well as all new electronics, solenoids, etc. He also gives you a 100k mile warranty! Total price out the door is about $3600. PM me if you need the name/address of the shop.
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And do NOT buy a used trans and throw it in there. It will most likely suffer the same fate as your original, except you are out the $1000 that it cost to buy/install the replacement trans.
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True, do not buy a used trans. When these cars where brand new I seen some fail on delivery ! These are such bad trannies. I had one I pulled out of my friends car two years back after I put a new one in for him and the car was totaled in an ice storm. That tranny failed 2yrs later and 50k miles too.

99s can be "hacked up" with a Oddy tranny. 00-03 TL/CL all use the same trans, but the Type S has no speed sensor in there for the power steering on the diff.
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I would have never thought of Honda/Acura having transmission issues....thanks for the feedback guys. I will ponder over this and figure out my best option, to me, it just does not make sense to spend $2-4grand on this car anymore. Maybe, I will just ride it until it gives up and then park it on the curb and go get me a newer car.
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Gotta look at this way. Car should go 200k with little effort. You got another 80k to go. That's at least 4-5yrs of driving, depending on mileage. Spend $3k to drive a car for min. 4yrs, with a great motor behind it. Or, spend a lot more money on a newer car. All up to personal choice and budget.
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Agreed....but I guess that is the problem, how do I know that after spending $2-3k on it, that the transmission is not going to fall apart again before it reaches let say 150k.
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Here's one thing I've learned since I started working on cars in KY.....people drive these things until they have 185-220K on them!

I'm talking driving that many miles and taking crappy care of it not servicing it....2-3K is what it is going to cost for a transmission.

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Or drive down to Louisville and get it done for 1K less....

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I work on these cars for a living... These trannies fail, their life expectancy is around 50k miles on average. The "improved" rebuilds seem to last longer but most people stop coming into the dealer for repairs when the cars get that old. It's rare to see a car 03 or older now..

You can take it to a tranny shop and get a rebuild done for around 2k... If you haven't done so yet the timing belt is overdue too. I just got a MDX that launched a timing belt due to neglect... So you are faced with a decision here: how much do you love your TransLauncher (internal name in Acura-dome for TLs). dealer installed price on one with 3/36 warranty will be around 3500 bux maybe more depending if it needs a new PCM with updated shift programs. Add in a timing belt for 800-1000 bux at shop/dealer. Car isn't worth the repairs at that point. With so many 0% interest deals on new cars, I would pick up a cheap ride for around 16-17k and drive it.

PM if you have any Qs or need help.
11 years with Honda and Acura and while the accords blew up transmissions around 75k(this was for those who NEVER serviced their transmissions) the TL's don't seem to fail as early. Around 110-120k is when I've seen most of them start to slip(this is for the 99-03 TL's), the PCM replacement isn't required but recommended to match the new line pressure rates.

Here's the question you need to ask yourself, what is a year of car payments going to cost you versus the price of replacing the TL's transmission. How much maintenance have you or haven't you done that is long since overdue and how well have you cared for the car? If you've done everything that's needed and it's in great shape why scoff at the idea of repairing it? As for buying a new car, $300/mo for the next 5-6 years versus spending a bit right now.

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I used to do 15-20 of these a week for many years in the early 01 to 04, went to another Acura dealer as I didn't want my back to kill me... Honda can't build a A/T tranny to save their life. I dunno what dealer you come from, but as someone who's done 3 MDX trannies this week AND an RL one... I would rate their trannies as bad as Chryslers.

Your warranty will be void without a PCM replacement of you buy a new tranny from Acura. Some cars get em some don't, most 01-02 did to help with the other issue.. Aka hot soak problem they can't cure.
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