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My Asian family is too judgmental for me to own something with a Kia badge.

Before Noodles asks, I gave the Prius to my bro when he moved out to Cali.
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Kruz sits in a 3 Series everyday while in traffic

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07 335xi here...what do you want to know? I think Bug spends more time in elevators than I do in my car.
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Considering an 08 335i hardtop convertible. The 07-09 335i models had a lot of fuel pump problems.

Aside from that, are there any out of the ordinary issues with the car?
And how has your maintenance experience been for this vehicle?
Any extra wear and tear?

What are some things to keep in mind when purchasing a 3-4 year old 3-Series.
What are the general upcoming maintenance/service schedules I should keep in mind.

Please feel to share any other thoughts as well.
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07 335xi here...what do you want to know? I think Bug spends more time in elevators than I do in my car.
Fuck Me I do spend too much time in "The Lift"

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-I had one fuel pump replaced per recall...it never actually failed though. Not really as big a deal as it was a few years back. BMWNA added a 10 year, 120k warranty on it. Much less reported incidents as of late.

-Injectors are also under a partial recall....again mine never failed. 3 replaced under warranty.

-Oil changes arent cheap even at the independants. You can DIY for ~$50.

-Ditch the run-flat tires it likely has on it. They are expensive, prone to bubbles, and performance is poor.

-CPO warranty to 100k is nice if the car has it. Keep in mind everything is at least twice as expensive compared to a domestic.

-These cars are very tuneable and put out good power with little money. Look for signs of tampering inthe ECU compartment, TMAP sensor, etc.

-If you plan to track it, find one with the auxillary oil cooler located in the front wheel well of the passenger side. Without it, they are prone to overheating in track coniditions and going into limp mode.

-Get the sport package, the seats alone are worth it.

-Lifetime Im averaging 19.9mpg most of which is a sporty 13 mile commute to work. On the highway crusing at 75-80mph, you will see 27-28mpg. This car demands 93 octane and at $4/gallon it's fairly economical.
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My Asian family is too judgmental for me to own something with a Kia badge.

Before Noodles asks, I gave the Prius to my bro when he moved out to Cali.
Good choice on ditching the Prius

I've had a '08 335i Sedan for about a year now. The high pressure fuel pump is a known issue and is backed by BMW up to 100,000 miles. You can tell when it's about to go from what I've read and could tell when mine was. You'll get long cranks and a rough idle, so if you get those symptoms, call the dealer and schedule an appointment. I had mine replaced once already and I think it's starting to go again (slight rough idle). Had a couple injectors replaced under the same warranty at the same time.

Other than that, no issues at all. If you can, try to get a CPO car. The turbos have been known to go out on the car. I took a risk and got one without, but I've been good so far. It's up to you if the cost delta to get a CPO car vs a nonCPO car is worth it.

You are going to have to invest in a set of winter tires FYI. Don't even try to drive without them, it won't work, especially if you're looking at the 335i. It's hard to gauge based off this winter due to lack of snow, but I was out driving the few times we got snow and I had no issues at all. The combo of traction control and winter tires means it's very difficult to spin out, if you even can Turn the traction control off though and it's a lot of fun.

I'm at 23.5 mpg over a year and about 18k miles, but a lot of that was highway commuting.

Agree with Kruz on the sports package. Any car without it was an automatic deal breaker for me and it was purely based off the seats. Sit in one with and one without and you'll see why.

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Also, if you're looking at a 08, like mine, you'll probably need the intake valves cleaned, which can be pricey if you don't do it yourself. Pretty much scrub the shit out of the valves with a brush and carb cleaner for 6-8 hours from what I've read. The car is DI, so no additive will clean them.

I'm planning on tackling that this spring since I don't want to pay to have it done.

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Great info guys!

The one I'm looking at has Sports, Premium and Cold Weather packages.

I'll check if its under warranty, but I doubt it since its on sale by a 3rd party dealership.
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Also, if you're looking at a 08, like mine, you'll probably need the intake valves cleaned, which can be pricey if you don't do it yourself. Pretty much scrub the shit out of the valves with a brush and carb cleaner for 6-8 hours from what I've read. The car is DI, so no additive will clean them.

I'm planning on tackling that this spring since I don't want to pay to have it done.
How much is it to get done at a dealership?
And typically at what miles is it recommended to have this done?
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How much is it to get done at a dealership?
And typically at what miles is it recommended to have this done?
I personally haven't gotten it quoted, but from what I've read on e90post (sign up there by the way, best forum for the car), it'll be between $600 and $1000.

There isn't a BMW recommendation from what I've read, but most people seem to do it around 50k and the carbon build up is pretty bad at that point.

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E36 with an M44 , it just works .

For a baller like yourself , check the leases , that way its new and has a full warranty .
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I hate to be one of those "If it were me guys" and everyone on here knows my love for VW so i will just say it, have you looked at the CC or Passat? - I only ask because a while ago (before my 23 page SUV thread) I was looking to get out of the Passat due to just being bored in life - I drove the C Series Benz and to be honest, my Passat was a more fun car to drive and it had EVERYTHING the C series had in terms of options and goodies

I have owned (3) beemers in my time and loved them all but also found that i liked not having the snob appeal when I drove my VW - MANY people got into my Passat and could not believe it was a VW - I broke the 2.0T motor in right and that thing was pretty dam fast for a 4 banger, 4 door sedan - VW has REALLY stepped up their quality control as of about 2006 and I have had ZERO issues with mine (GTI, Passat and Touareg)

I really like the looks of the the CC and with the right body kit and 18 inch wheels, it is a pretty sharp ride IMHO and the amenities rival any other German Mfg out there

Here is an example of a "Kit" and it has 19 inch wheels - All the comforts of the Merc, BMW and Audi without the Snob appeal

Just my thoughts bro - I like to fly under the radar and have something "different" than what is out there - I have a strong hook up w/Autobarn so if you see anything (even outside of VW) in any of their lots, let me know I and I will intro you to my Finc guy who is Richard Fisher's (owner of all the Autobarns) right hand man for the past (15) years

I will say though that the twin turbo 3 series can be made to be fuck all fast as hell - The 2.0T if done correctly can be fast but that 3 series with a few mods can be over 400 hp right quick
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My primary reason for purchasing the 335i is for the hardtop convertible.

I'm seriously considering the new Passat TDI as well since Prius as spoiled me with the MPGs. Its on the top of my list.

CC is sweet too.

Stanimal, lease is also an option...


Anyone know a good BMW dealership/technician for me to take this car and have it thoroughly inspected?
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E36 with an M44 , it just works .

For a baller like yourself , check the leases , that way its new and has a full warranty .

I like the fours ...... but the IL-6 is just so good .....

The M54B30 was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list through 2001-2003.

The newer NA one is as well.

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I like the fours ...... but the IL-6 is just so good .....

The M54B30 was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list through 2001-2003.

The newer NA one is as well.

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As is the new Turbo IL-4



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They make good engines , its everything else that worries me . IMHO , the E46 and the E39 were the last of the great cars . Its hard to argue with the fact that the E46 M3 was one of the best looking cars.The E36 cars were simple and reliable .
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E36 M3 was one of the best cars I ever owned. The I6 engine is a 9.9/10, handling and balance, brakes were simply awesome..I sold it at 150K miles. It had a ton of track and autoX miles as well. Friend of mine bought it and took it to 250K miles. I have owned all 5 German makes. The BMW was the most "needy" but never unrelaible.

Go find a nice 335, chip and exhaust and she will run 400HP+. Quite the upgrade from a Prius! Chances are it will help attract women who actually shave
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Ah screw it , get the Genesis Spec R .
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Meh.

I had to have our '08 sport wagon towed out of our garage to the dealership today. I'll find out what's wrong with it tomorrow. Second mechanical issue in less than a year. Thank god it was a CPO.

If you have to get a BMW, get one with low miles, and is CPO. The maintenance is twice as much as most other cars, and if something breaks, it's always something expensive because Germans fucking over-engineer every goddamn thing. Dealership wanted to charge $300 for a service interval that was a "visual inspection" because there's so much plastic shit they have to remove just to look at stuff.

We've always had manual shift meat wagons. The loaner sedan they gave me today made me wonder why anyone would want to spend that much money on a BMW with auto trans. It sucks. Weird long pause before there's any power, and it feels way anemic compared to ours, which is older, with the same motor, and weighs a bunch more because it's a wagon - but it's a 6-speed. Lots of highway miles it'll get 27mpg. I've been farting around town only lately, and it has dropped to 25.8.

I'm so over the extra expense and hassle. And of course it always shits the bed when I have it. (first time I was at the office in Ohio and had to deal with it in Columbus in the middle of our busiest event of the year. Awesome.) It was fine for the 30K something miles that X drove it. Oh, only takes premium fuel too. Sure it's neat to drive and all that, but I've been much happier with our shitball Nissan Xterra. I'm dreading the day the CPO warranty runs out.

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I have an 09 335 xDrive sedan. One of the best cars I've owned. Definitely ditch the run flats. The only mechanical issues that I've experienced was after the maintenance visit for a recall. The dealer reinstalled the valves improperly at Fields. Been going to Knauz BMW and very happy with their service.
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