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Old school audio install

Finally got started with one of the installs today. Gonna try and keep the install period correct as much as possible.

1997 Cavalier ( the work car)
4.5" Boston pro series components up front
5.25 Boston pro seriesin the rear
Two 15" kicker solo barics ( the round ones)
Fosgate 4080
Fosgate 500m ( or two 200dsm)
Fosgate EPX2
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There are about 13 (7mm) screws that need to be removed to take the dash panel off before you can get to the hidden screw to remove the panel that covers the radio. Don't be that guy and destroy the radio cover not knowing about the hidden screw.
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There are about 13 (7mm) screws that need to be removed to take the dash panel off before you can get to the hidden screw to remove the panel that covers the radio. Don't be that guy and destroy the radio cover not knowing about the hidden screw.
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Not that it matters anymore but I was MECP certified back in the day and installed at shop in Chicago andvthen at United Audio for a minute before I took my baller job at Comcast. Ahhh, the good old install days, great job to get pussy worst job to get paid! If you didn't own the shop you got no cash, did all the work and watched the owner do shit. Did I mention all the pussy though?

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I find it humorous that you're going to be rockin a pr of 15s with only 4 1/2" mid-bass drivers up front. Is there a way to get some 6 1/2"s up front somehow (kick panel or door).

I had a GMC Jimmy back in the day with a very similar setup. Boston Pros front (4 1/2") & rear (5 1/4"), + 4 Fosgate 12s. Big Fosgate amps to boot.

Even with good equalization, the fronts struggled to keep up at higher volumes, unless I brought the crossover point up high enough to leave a gap. If I brought the crossover point up on the subs, it got directional real quickly & the mid-bass resolution went to shit.

If you're not going to be listening at higher volumes, this solves itself, but I would assume with that much juice & 2 big subs, that you'll be turning it up a bit.
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I find it humorous that your cheapest daily carry gun probably costs more than your daily ride.
What's even funnier is when I take the bolt guns out and on the drove there I think.....

I could sell the cheapest rifle in the trunk and buy 5 of these cars. Now that's funny!

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I find it humorous that you're going to be rockin a pr of 15s with only 4 1/2" mid-bass drivers up front. Is there a way to get some 6 1/2"s up front somehow (kick panel or door).

I had a GMC Jimmy back in the day with a very similar setup. Boston Pros front (4 1/2") & rear (5 1/4"), + 4 Fosgate 12s. Big Fosgate amps to boot.

Even with good equalization, the fronts struggled to keep up at higher volumes, unless I brought the crossover point up high enough to leave a gap. If I brought the crossover point up on the subs, it got directional real quickly & the mid-bass resolution went to shit.

If you're not going to be listening at higher volumes, this solves itself, but I would assume with that much juice & 2 big subs, that you'll be turning it up a bit.
I wanted something that was plug and play. SQ isn't even a thought here but I will, as you mentioned, be keeping the subs at a lower level more than pounding. Those bostons have surprised me in the past though, with the tweeds mounted high up on the door they seem to be surprisingly bright.

Im thInking cutting the fronts off at 250hz and the rears off at 125hz. That would leave a gap between 80 and 125 since that's what I plan to cut the subs off at. Well play with it. It's just something for fun, I got to many other thongs going on to get balls deep in this install. I still have a feeling it will sound better than 90% of the crap installed out there!

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The crossover points I wound up at were 80 on the subs at 18db/octave, 125 on the rears @ 12db/octave, & depending on how loud I was listening, I would set the fronts at 125 for lower volumes, 160 for moderate volumes and 200 at higher volumes.

In that vehicle, I found going above 160 made the mid-bass pretty directional from the rear.

No doubt, the whole install gets more complex with bigger drivers up front. At the very least, you're fabricating for fit. If you add a pr of 6 1/2s to what you already have, then it's 2 more amp channels & a band pass crossover of some flavor.

I just wanted to chime in, because you're so close to having a really good system with what's already there and I had experience with where it falls short.
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Btw.... Wait till you see where I put the cross over, that'll show you how much I dint want to start cutting anything up. Minimal change, trying to utilize as many factory holes as possible. But when it's absolutely needed I will cut and screw

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I got $2500 in the car, lol!

I'm sure I can put more than that is stereo equipment.

Here's the x-over "mounted" nice and outta sight when the seat is flipped back


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The crossover points I wound up at were 80 on the subs at 18db/octave, 125 on the rears @ 12db/octave, & depending on how loud I was listening, I would set the fronts at 125 for lower volumes, 160 for moderate volumes and 200 at higher volumes.

In that vehicle, I found going above 160 made the mid-bass pretty directional from the rear.

No doubt, the whole install gets more complex with bigger drivers up front. At the very least, you're fabricating for fit. If you add a pr of 6 1/2s to what you already have, then it's 2 more amp channels & a band pass crossover of some flavor.

I just wanted to chime in, because you're so close to having a really good system with what's already there and I had experience with where it falls short.
You wanna come over and tune my system for me??

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Love the equipment list. My first sub was a C12a (first with inverted cone) but always wanted the S12a. Late 90's Alpine HU lineup was friggen fantastic. Make sure you get some Techmaster PEB ready for bass tuning.

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