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Ray's Winter 2011

So i'm thinking of going up to Rays in the next couple of weeks. I'm also going to be heading up on mondays, I can go sunday but for the first trip i'd rather go when it's slower. Anyone interested? Either way we should definitely make a few trips over the winter.
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I'm wanting to go a couple of times this winter but don't have any dates set, I would also like to go before the snow falls but nothing set up yet.
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If you get there early Grab one of the Rental Dirt jumper bikes, (I think like $10)
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I looked at one of these today, I don't ride there enough to justify it but maybe next year.

http://www.scott-sports.com/us_en/pr...1/55686/217974

Also they rent the Trek Ticket which is probably close to the same in terms of geometry.

http://www.raysmtb.com/mke/index.php...d=53&Itemid=84
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After i rode cleveland last winter i was browsing park bikes quite a bit. That shit is fun and its a nice change of pace, but its really hard to justify when solid rental bikes are on site and cheap. Still tempting though

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I REALLY want to. But I don't think this kind of riding is good for me. I may consider it though. Maybe it will help my technical ridng. LMK when you go and I'll think about it.

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It will and it wont. For your purposes i dont think the gains would be that big, and the risk of fucking yourself up probably outweighs it.

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It will and it wont. For your purposes i dont think the gains would be that big, and the risk of fucking yourself up probably outweighs it.
I think I need to go spend some time on a dirt bike. That would probably be more beneficial to me. I'd probably be fine at rays in all honesty. I'm pretty sure all the jumping and half pipe riding I did as a kid would come back pretty quick. It's the dirt thing that throws me off. I've become too much of a roadie after being without an mtb this year!

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Its not the jumping, its some of the technical sections that could put the hurt on you

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I REALLY want to. But I don't think this kind of riding is good for me. I may consider it though. Maybe it will help my technical ridng. LMK when you go and I'll think about it.
Practice makes perfect. Some of the skinny obstacles up there are way above my ability but the lower ones are still good practice.

I wouldn't jump my mountain bike so i'll be renting a dirt jump bike for days to go up there an jump a lot and other day's i'll bring my bike and stick to the xc loop. Like anything else as long as you aren't haphazard and ride mostly within your limits you will be fine, the goal is to know your limit and push a little beyond it, a little bit, from time to time in order to progress.
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The notice couldn't get any later then this but i'm heading up tomorrow to check it out. I guess until the snow hit it's very slow there, after that I guess it's a madhouse. First ride report tomorrow night.
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Curious to get your impressions of the place. Would love to go roll around there and play on stuff - but I'm not sure what my current fitness and lack of ability will allow.

For those that have been - is it fun for someone that's never been on a pump track and wants to try it? Or is it going to be another one of my "standing in front of the class without pants on" nightmares?

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Its very beginner friendly. I havent been to the milwaukee location yet but i've been to cleveland. Walking into a place like that is very intimidating, but you soon find out that there is a lot for beginners and that the learning process there is very much encouraged. Dont think sink or swim, think baby steps. Its a fun, laid back place and you are never the only noob in the building. Its much more fun and welcoming for newer riders than i expected. My advice is go, and you'll have a blast

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I've been there a few times but not this season.
They do change the features frequently.
My personal opinion is there are setups for lower intermediate on up to whatever you want.

if you can do Palos I would think you would be ok.
If you are falling off your road bike already you may want to skip it

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Curious to get your impressions of the place. Would love to go roll around there and play on stuff - but I'm not sure what my current fitness and lack of ability will allow.

For those that have been - is it fun for someone that's never been on a pump track and wants to try it? Or is it going to be another one of my "standing in front of the class without pants on" nightmares?
To both you guys- the bottom line is what kevin said= "My advice is go, and you'll have a blast"... really it's too much fun to not go. We got there at 12:30 today (they open at noon) and rode until 6pm. Bring snacks, some water, and gatoraid. We ordered lunch and had it delivered- they have stacks of local menus from places that deliver there.

So I rented a Trek Ticket, a dirt jump bike. I was nervous at first, after warming up things started to come together. Many of the expert skinnies are too crazy for me to attempt so there is no need to worry about getting hurt on them, I hit all of the intermediate ones and fell off most of them. They are great for bike handling skills, you can start small and build up to the intermediate ones- this improves your commitment and confidence. Look where you want to go, not at the ground or rocks all over the place.

The pump track was fun and wears you out quick so I didn't spend too much time on it. They also have a mini jump section that I used to get comfortable on the rental and jumping. Then I moved to the intermediate jumps.

The xc loop was cool but I would rather be on a dirt jump bike with platforms, even if I didn't jump anything. They handle the skinnies well and this isn't a place where you spend any length of time sitting and not too much pedaling going on either. Get your pump skills on.

We HAVE to set up a day for this, it's hard to put into words how cool it was. Too bad when D and kevin posted about this place last year I didn't listen. Sort of like Brown County (now listed as an epic ride on IMBA epic ride), now I know.
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Oh I forgot to mention, gloves with padding help. My hands are pretty well calloused and they still blistered a tiny bit.

Also I wore running shoes and they are very squishy so I got a huge blister on the sole of my foot that was torn right open, about the size of a quarter. Anything with a stiffer sole would work, i'll probably buy some DC's or comprable skate type shoes.

Mainly these two things were noticeable because I was not smooth the first half of the day and the grips on a rental bike are worn down farther then I would ever allow on a bike that I own.
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Sounds great.
later in the season I'd be up for a road trip

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Saw your stuff on facebook and now i've got the itch. When is the next trip? I'll check the calendar at home and find some potential dates that i could do. Potentially this or next sunday?

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let me know what dates you are free and let me know. I'm sore as hell but that was awesome, I can't wait to go again.
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Was there a foam pit? I wouldn't mind trying a backflip or something equally as stupid.
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There is a foam pit, no rental bikes are allowed in there because on the first day some idiot was in there and couldn't get out so he just threw the rental bike out and it dented the frame.

Also there was a guy there from bikerumor.com and he said he's trashed a couple of derailleurs on the skinnies before. So the more I think about the less i'm willing to bring my own bike. Plus thinking of the foam pit that could easily bend a derailleur hanger.
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Rays Cleveland looks like they have more jumps, either way they just posted this vid on fb and it's pretty good.

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I would never bother bringing my bike. Their rentals are much better suited to the park. And theyre cheap!

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Oh yeah, when we went to Whistler we always brought a spare derailleur. Shit happens when you are slipping off the right side. Maybe I'll see if I can borrow someone else's bike that wants to see me make a fool of myself.

Rick was asking about this place after he saw your post on Facebook. If we all go, make sure you tease him about coming in DFL in the first CX race and quit after a lap on the second race. Motherfucker won't shut up about how bad he kicked my ass in the Hot Chocolate race, so he's got it coming.
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