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Cervelo P5

Anyone else see this yet? Dam that is one bike guaranteed to make you faster.

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That thing is ridiculous. Guess what Scoots is eyeing up?
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That thing looks fast just standing still.

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another article just released at midnight (an hour ago)

http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/01/18/...ed-simplified/


f-ing sick, i'd like to just ride one for a day but then anything else would just feel slow. Hey I thought bikes and components aren't fast, that almost doesn't seem to hold up with this thing.
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Sweet looking bike, then you find out how much....

I'd show up on a wheel werks ride with one and be like the cartoon video about the Tri-althete and the weekend rider..

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Got the wife's approval, anyone have the spare change to buy it for me? I'll let you ride it once a month.

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For $10K, I think you get what you paid for on this one. That bike is sick.

I thought this was interesting though:
A very interesting piece of trivia is that one meter of hydraulic hose WITH oil weighs 5g, while the same length of brake housing and cable is 70g.
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^ read that too and was like damn... Do a stoppie on that bike you'll bust a brake line...

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I thought that was interesting too, I like the faring that covers the front brake, the whole thing is awesome.
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Why is it specifically a Triathlon bike? Too uncomfortable or unreliable to be for regular bike racing? I would assume that the aero benefits would be welcome across the board, but the fact that they put this in a category suggests that it's not suited for all-around bike racing? Why is that?

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I'd put some taller handle bars on that thing to make it more comfortable.

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Why is it specifically a Triathlon bike? Too uncomfortable or unreliable to be for regular bike racing? I would assume that the aero benefits would be welcome across the board, but the fact that they put this in a category suggests that it's not suited for all-around bike racing? Why is that?

Very confusing and expensive sport this cycling seems to be.
basically the professional road racers will not be allowed to use the parts on the tri version as they are not UCI legal (UCI is like the AMA for bikes). Tri's have no restrictions until you get to the top level, UCI has several rules and even have limits for frame geometry. I'm not sure if the local age group or cat 1/2/3 road racers have to worry about this as unless you are going for some state record I don't think anyone would care, they would use it for time trials (TT's) and really nothing else.
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basically the professional road racers will not be allowed to use the parts on the tri version as they are not UCI legal (UCI is like the AMA for bikes). Tri's have no restrictions until you get to the top level, UCI has several rules and even have limits for frame geometry. I'm not sure if the local age group or cat 1/2/3 road racers have to worry about this as unless you are going for some state record I don't think anyone would care, they would use it for time trials (TT's) and really nothing else.

Along with the rules the geometry isn't suitable for day in and day out long stage racing. Comfort and handling suffer. I would like to take this bike for a ride.
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Well it's official, I'm gonna have to kick Scott's ass. He ordered a P5 already. What an asshole. He has already done a 100 mile mountain bike ride this year too, and plans for more. He is gonna be tough to beat on the bike this year I think. I'm depressed.
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Why is it specifically a Triathlon bike? Too uncomfortable or unreliable to be for regular bike racing? I would assume that the aero benefits would be welcome across the board, but the fact that they put this in a category suggests that it's not suited for all-around bike racing? Why is that?

Very confusing and expensive sport this cycling seems to be.
TT bikes are designed around aerodynamics, road bikes are designed for light weight, handling, climbing, and are more well rounded for most riding. TT bikes put you in a more aero position, which is what creates most of the drag at higher speeds. Those are the biggies, but there are other factors as well. Unless you are specifically a triathlete, and with multiple bikes, then you want a road bike.
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Well it's official, I'm gonna have to kick Scott's ass. He ordered a P5 already. What an asshole. He has already done a 100 mile mountain bike ride this year too, and plans for more. He is gonna be tough to beat on the bike this year I think. I'm depressed.
Relax! If I remember right he didn't have a particularly good year last year. Good for him for stepping it up in the off season. That P5 is cool as shit! And Scoots is just the guinea pig before we get ours! Lol. Seriously, that bike is barely any faster than what you are riding. There wouldn't be a even a noticeable difference. If he beats you, it won't be the bikes fault.

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Relax! If I remember right he didn't have a particularly good year last year. Good for him for stepping it up in the off season. That P5 is cool as shit! And Scoots is just the guinea pig before we get ours! Lol. Seriously, that bike is barely any faster than what you are riding. There wouldn't be a even a noticeable difference. If he beats you, it won't be the bikes fault.
His pics will just look better. Only decent difference is the Zipp disc wheels, which I don't have. The rest I don't care about really, but the wheels are a distinct advantage.
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His pics will just look better. Only decent difference is the Zipp disc wheels, which I don't have. The rest I don't care about really, but the wheels are a distinct advantage.
I thought you were going to get some wheels this year?

You'd be surprised how little an advantage the wheels are. Yes there is one, especially over 22mph. You could get a disc cover for your rear and either buy a front wheel or rent one for races. Should keep things cheap and will be just as fast as Scoots more expensive setup. Believe me!!! You don't have to spend a whole lot of dough to be on par with the fastest/newest stuff out there. It certainly is "cool", and I enjoy have expensive bikes as much as the next guy too. But, There's a WHOLE LOT of marketing hype in this stuff. The differences are very minimal. Which is why the engine is generally the most important thing.

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I want to get wheels, but money is tight this year so far. I'll probably wait another year or so. I know they only help at high speeds, but when your average speed is 25 mph they help a ton. I only really care about the wheels, the rest of the brake stuff/frame design/improvements etc. won't matter much. Except in the pics.

I'm not sure Scott has ever done squats. I think his max bench is around 1 Bun.
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Well it's official, I'm gonna have to kick Scott's ass. He ordered a P5 already. What an asshole. He has already done a 100 mile mountain bike ride this year too, and plans for more. He is gonna be tough to beat on the bike this year I think. I'm depressed.
According to Mr Joe Friel that is called a christmas all-star and nothing to worry about, when july comes around and you are peaking and scott's performance is dropping off there will be nothing to worry about.
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I want to get wheels, but money is tight this year so far. I'll probably wait another year or so. I know they only help at high speeds, but when your average speed is 25 mph they help a ton. I only really care about the wheels, the rest of the brake stuff/frame design/improvements etc. won't matter much. Except in the pics.

I'm not sure Scott has ever done squats. I think his max bench is around 1 Bun.
Actually, at 25mph, your going benefit less because of diminishing returns. You'd actually get a bigger benefit from wheels if you were under the 22-23mph recommended speed on a speed basis. Aerodynamically, you benefit more. But, unfortunately for you, the higher the speed the wind resistance! I thought you were an uber biker! don't you get this stuff mang?!!!

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[QUOTE=Meulen;2005316]Pure sickness. Too bad my wife wants a DA now. I doubt I'll get this anytime soon. [/QUOTE

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Actually, at 25mph, your going benefit less because of diminishing returns. You'd actually get a bigger benefit from wheels if you were under the 22-23mph recommended speed on a speed basis. Aerodynamically, you benefit more. But, unfortunately for you, the higher the speed the wind resistance! I thought you were an uber biker! don't you get this stuff mang?!!!
Semantics young man. The aero benefit from wheels would be greater at greater speeds, but would not translate linearly from 22 mph to 25 mph because of the greater wind resistance from everything else at those speeds. In effect, you may be able to go to 23.5 from 22 with Zipps, but only 26 from 25, simply because of the faster speeds and law of diminishing returns. Aerodynamics isn't as much of a factor at lower speeds.

One thing I know for sure, is that I would go faster with Zipps. Quite a bit. I don't even have ceramic bearings yet. I bet I could bust out 26.5 in an Olympic tri with Zipps and a disc. Interesting tidbit here too: Cervelo and Zipp top the list of what is ridden in World competition.

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