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Anyone interested in doing some longer races in 2013, lets say 50 up to 100 miles? What races are there between now and July within a reasonable distance (driveable and would require no more than a 1 night stay away from home for whole trip)?

All this talk about La Ruta recently, and now Vision Quest coaching (where I do computrainer) is doing a camp for Leadville this year. There are some other camps that I'm looking into as well. I've been diligent in my training and having a blast, and really want to keep it up through winter and rest of 2013. Leadville has been on my bucket list since I learned of it a few years ago, and I'm thinking a buckle might be in my reach if I start training now and keep consistent. Would definitely be a great motivator this year! I'm probably going to start planning training rides soon to build up fitness and ability for long days in the saddle.

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You got a long way to go for a buckle young grasshopper! On the plus side, these races are just as much mental as they are physical, so if you are strong in one you might do OK still. I'm not sure what I'm doing yet, but there are a few I will be considering. I think I might do the HHH race on my mountain bike too. I really need to get on modifying my bike for lower gearing and adding a front derailleur. Glad you are digging it, and with steady training you will do fine.

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Long way, yes. But is 9 months enough time to get there?

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It will get you in the ballpark. To get under 9 hours is quite a feat though. Don't set your sights so high yet. Just train correctly and as much as you can and you will do well. I know guys that have a ton of experience with years of riding and training and nutrition that didn't get under 9 hours. Scott got 10.5 and 10 I think, and that was it. He's been riding as long as I have and was pretty fast during that period. A race like that though is more like an adventure for most people, not really a race for time.

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My plan would be to train like I'm going for the sub 9 hour gold buckle, but I know that is getting very optimistic. Realistically I'd be going for the sub 12 hour silver buckle.

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Have you read Friels book yet? Read it. Stocking stuffer. Make the girl get it for you. Do it! You will be riding almost every day to do that. For realz. Dennis had almost 1000 miles in before March last year. He would do 100 mile MTB rides at Waterfall Glen during winter. Serious shit.

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not yet, will add it to my christmas list tonight! Waterfall Glen is exactly what I have in mind for training rides, good 10 mile loop that is rideable in almost any weather. Figure I can start with 3 hour rides and steadily add seat time as I go. I'm in the early stages of considering this, but I can start training like I'm going to do it regardless of whether I actually do. The fitness is part of it, but the financial cost won't be easy either, camps will be big dollars for me. I love the idea of doing a camp, I think it would improve my odds of success quite a bit to know how I'll react to elevation and to have some experience on the course before race day.

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Yes definitely interested in doing some 50-65mi events. 100 is out of my reach for next year. But anyway glad you posted this because I was close to making a thread myself. I've been scouring the endurance forum over at mtbr.com lately reading up on races, training, nutrition etc.

Don't know what races I'm going to do yet but I'll post up some links I've book marked so far. Probably doing mostly solo but a team race would be fun too I think.

http://xxcmag.com/2012-race-calendar Should be a link for the 2013 calendar in there.

http://wemseries.com/ for more semi-local events.

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I'm pretty much sticking to 1000 mile rides these days.

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Solid, thanks Chris! I'll check those links later tonight. I'm in the same boat, mostly solo but open to team stuff. Either way if I do some of these events would be good to know someone

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Camps are usually big dough, and probably not worth it IMO dollar for dollar with other options. You don't need to do a "camp" to go out there and ride. I wouldn't mind taking a weekend and driving to CO or somewhere and riding a few days and boarding a few days. Just being out there and riding for a few hours will give you an idea of what it will be like and how to deal with it.

Chris, if you can do a 60 mile ride you can do a century. After a certain point, it's all nutrition if you're staying under lactate threshold and aerobic. You would be surprised what you could do now that you have a solid base.

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Have you read Friels book yet? Read it. Stocking stuffer. Make the girl get it for you. Do it! You will be riding almost every day to do that. For realz. Dennis had almost 1000 miles in before March last year. He would do 100 mile MTB rides at Waterfall Glen during winter. Serious shit.
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Have you read Friels book yet? Read it. Stocking stuffer. Make the girl get it for you. Do it! You will be riding almost every day to do that. For realz. Dennis had almost 1000 miles in before March last year. He would do 100 mile MTB rides at Waterfall Glen during winter. Serious shit.
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Fucking A does anybody read the shit I post! It is THE book everybody who is fast, was fast, wants to be fast, or will be fast is reading. Mountain Bike Training Bible. That is what got Tony fast too. Lots of info in there, and more than you need really.

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Good point. Dont want to go out there solo though

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Good point. Dont want to go out there solo though
Maybe we can plan a trip somewhere. Rick I'm sure will be in too, as he is doing La Ruta too. One of our best trips was our first time to Whistler and North Shore. First night we slept in the rental van, and our last night we stayed in some bed and breakfast run by somebody's granny. Rick said he went out to CO last year with his kids and just played it by ear and checked priceline every night for a cheap hotel and skied for a few days and drove home.

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Yep, and it's tough to get in if you don't. At least you could try I guess depending on when they notify you of it. A lot of other people recommended a few other races that were much more fun. A lot said there is a race like that in British Columbia Canada that is supposed to be epic.

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Chris, if you can do a 60 mile ride you can do a century. After a certain point, it's all nutrition if you're staying under lactate threshold and aerobic. You would be surprised what you could do now that you have a solid base.
Going to get Friel's book ordered soon and get my learn on. The lack of a training plan right now is starting to bug me so I really want to get that figured out. Hopefully this will give me some direction.

I believe I read that the Shenandoah Mountain 100 was another good alternative to Leadville as well. http://www.mtntouring.com/mountain/h...page_sm100.htm

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Going to get Friel's book ordered soon and get my learn on. The lack of a training plan right now is starting to bug me so I really want to get that figured out. Hopefully this will give me some direction.

I believe I read that the Shenandoah Mountain 100 was another good alternative to Leadville as well. http://www.mtntouring.com/mountain/h...page_sm100.htm

And that BC race looks insane!
Ha just saw you live in Pingree Grove. I ride out by you all the time on my road rides. If you know where Townhall road is, that is a great training hill.

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I'd be up for it if I can fit it in the race schedule.

I'd guess your a little ways a way from that buckle. That's a serious goal to reach in 9 months. Especially with you doing all the cx stuff right now. If you are planning on going distance next year you should be putting in some serious saddle time right now. You can scale it back over the winter but have to come back to it quickly in the spring. I think you could train to finish but actually racing it will be pretty tough at this point. Scott and Ken have years of base that comes back to them every spring. You'd be building your base fresh at those distances. Nutrition isn't always easy to nail down either. Everyone is different with that and you'll need to be figuring that out on your long rides. Judging from the puke fest last time I saw you ride more than a couple hours you'll need some practice with that! Lol. you might want get used to that trainer too. That will not only allow you to ride in crappy weather but help you on the mental part of this.

I'll be at Palos tomorrow for a 3 hour ride and on the road for at least 4 Sunday. You're welcome to join me on either. Personally I think you should have done some 6 hour rides already if your planning on this for next year. But your young and your body adapts way quicker than my old bones! S this is probably still doable for you, but judging by what Ken said about Scott the 9 hour mark will be a couple years worth of work!

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Oh yeah, make no mistake dude, you gotta hit the miles starting now. After this weekend, you better be on it if you want to do well. Read the training bible, and it will give you about 200 pages of setting up your season, but basically you need TONS of longer easier miles right now. The size of your base is what limits your overall performance no matter how hard you train and how many intervals you do.

I can probably race 4 CX races and do well in all of them with just a small dropoff in power, whereas you would probably drop after 2. That comes from base training, not high end training like most would think. After the 1st of the year I will be riding a ton of easy miles, and then ramping up intensity later in the year to build upon that base.

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I'll be at Palos tomorrow for a 3 hour ride and on the road for at least 4 Sunday. You're welcome to join me on either.
I'm probably going to MTB ride somewhere tomorrow.
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