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Questions when powder coating a frame

I am sending the frame and swingarm to Silverghost next week. I have some questions about the vin on the bike.

Odviously, the bike will be blasted and p-coated. The vin will most likely be wiped off, or barely visible. This bike will be sold at a later date, so the vin is important. How do I handle this? Take pics of it before? Re-stamp it into the frame?

Also, what are your thoughts about a white frame? Too hard to keep clean? The bike will be ridden minimally, and always cleaned up after it is ridden.
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I doubt the vin will be wipe off.
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It's not really deep. I'm hoping HDTony chimes in. The vin was etched very lightly into the 748/996 frames. I wonder what he did when he had his frame p-coated.
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Ask them to tape over it, or tape over it yourself. They should know how though...since they need to plug threads and ports and whatever would have issues getting plugged up with PC.

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You can buy tape specific to handle the heat of the powder coat process. Tape it yourself or request the company tape it.
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Sean from The Powder Pro is doing the work. It's not a side job for him, it's his passion and career. He worked on the parts for the engine and they were flawless. He will tape whatever needs to be done. The vin (I think) is stamped under the tank and on the head tube. I'd like to remove the one on the front of the frame to keep a clean look.
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If you want to sell it, I wouldn't remove or alter any VIN. As stated, they just tape it off when spraying on the powder. Then it doesn't get coated you can then mask it and paint it to match later.

On my Ducati the vin is laser etched in. It looks like little tiny dimples. I had the same concern. I took a drill bit and slightly enlarged all the dimples. Wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was.

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The VIN should not be wiped off. I've powdercoated dozens of frames. Never had the VIN wiped off.

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The VIN should not be wiped off. I've powdercoated dozens of frames. Never had the VIN wiped off.
It doesn't wipe off. When the blasting is done, it can soften the lines of the numbers and letters making it hard to read. If you use an abrasive enough media it is possible though very unlike to completely make the vin unreadable.

When the power melts into the valleys of the vin number, it fills in as well and makes the vin hard to read.

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have him tape over the vin before coating. my 916 frame was done twice because of this. the first time he coated over the vin, once he realized this (after I said WTF) he stripped my frame down and recoated it with a the vin exposed.




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Ok, I have the vin figured out. Thanks! What about the color of the frame? Any ideas how a white frame will hold up?
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white is ugly on a frame. I'd go with a nice graphite silver or a black, maybe even satin black.

I used these guys by the way when I did mine. very cool guy and great work. I was impressed by how he stood behind his work.
http://www.cpcpowdercoating.com/page1.html




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SilverGhost will get all of my p-coat work for as long as he is around. Thanks for the suggestion Tony. I was kinda wondering about the white frame. Part of the problem is, I'm partially color blind, so matching this stuff up is tough for me. The engine is gloss black, so a satin black would look good. That graphite sounds hot too. I'm sure Sean will come up with something.
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I hope white isn't a bad idea because that's what I'm planning on my Sportster. (sort of an anti-HD thing) Constant cleaning is why I'm going with powdercoat instead of paint. I'm going to powder over the VIN and hope it shows. If it should become an issue with police later I'd be forced to sand off the powder over the VIN. I have never had a cop look at a VIN.

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I hope white isn't a bad idea because that's what I'm planning on my Sportster. (sort of an anti-HD thing) Constant cleaning is why I'm going with powdercoat instead of paint. I'm going to powder over the VIN and hope it shows. If it should become an issue with police later I'd be forced to sand off the powder over the VIN. I have never had a cop look at a VIN.
Do not powder coat over the vin. it wont show through well enough. my suggestion would be to tape over the vin, then once it's done mix up some touch up paint to match close and use a fine brush or airbrush to cover the vin safely. powder coat is very hard to get off in the future, grinding is your main chioce for removal, and that will take the vin with it.




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Questions when powder coating a frame

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If you are going to resell it black.
The shop will tape over the numbers if you mention it or tape it yourself
If you are going to keep it, make it whatever color you want.

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My vin was powdered over, it's a little hard to read but it's there and you can make it out. Good enough for me.

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the frame will be fine, we have coated over 40 frames at this point... if it is in the metal we will blast with alum oxide, you can still read it just fine...

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White wheels on blue gixxers look good, white frames never look good, Ducati or not.




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The vin on my frame was powder coated and I can read it just fine.

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