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Kind of spooky but true...


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Saw that video a couple months back. What do you find spooky?

I think that dude is brilliant!

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Great video. It is amazing how many guys are totally mechanically inept. It's all part of the pussification of guys.

I can identify with that guy. "I don't have any money. Every time I get money I buy another motorycle."
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Cool Video Nick,
I agree with what he's saying about people not knowing how to use tools and Identify with what he was saying about being a kid and really wanting to work in a motorcycle shop.

That whole motorcycle buying compulsion thing sounds a little familiar as well

When I was growing up, We all hung out at the Garage. Someone was always building or modifying some kind of vehicle.
It makes me sad that I do not see this anymore.


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probably not the same effect with no sound...

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Some day the economy and the ability to work with your hands will straighten it self out.


Imagine a day when the farmer has all the food.

HE has no need for your computer skills ,Can you offer him ANYTHING in trade for the food your family needs?????

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Some day the economy and the ability to work with your hands will straighten it self out.


Imagine a day when the farmer has all the food.

HE has no need for your computer skills ,Can you offer him ANYTHING in trade for the food your family needs?????
have you seen modern farming equipment? he sure does.

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have you seen modern farming equipment? he sure does.
I used to build these computers that were setup with an ordering program that the farmers would use to order parts and big farm implements. I was shocked that this little custom built desktop would cost $5k, but when considering it was for ordering $500k farm equipment, it was just a drop in the bucket.

Unless it's a small organic farmer, I might have a skill to trade.

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I used to build these computers that were setup with an ordering program that the farmers would use to order parts and big farm implements. I was shocked that this little custom built desktop would cost $5k, but when considering it was for ordering $500k farm equipment, it was just a drop in the bucket.

Unless it's a small organic farmer, I might have a skill to trade.
get into the machines themselves. Its all electronic/fly-by wire control systems. Long gone are direct drive hydraulics and straight 8 diesels with mechanical fuel pumps.

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HE has no need for your computer skills ,Can you offer him ANYTHING in trade for the food your family needs?????
Internet porn? Seems like a fair trade.

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You fellas are talking about a modern current affairs system.

When this system falls back on a bartering means of sustainability I don't think the computer infrastructure will be part of it.

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If all the computers and computer jobs went away today how many of the computer guys would be able to fend for themselves? For example, be able to turn a wrench, build something and have something to offer their neighbor in exchange for something they have to offer? I'm talking about the bartering system. You help me put a roof on my house and I help you repair your electric in your house. Or I help you put a fire place in your house and you help me repair my truck.

I went to school for a trade and I've learned quite a bit when it comes to turning a wrench over the years. If the economy falls to the point where money isn't worth anything anymore I have skills to barter my way in to getting food in my belly.

There aren't enough skilled tradesman, craftsman in the United States. That is bad news.

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you'll have to excuse my skepticism that computers will be "going away"

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I see at least someone gets my point.

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I see at least someone gets my point.
We get your point. Unfortunately not all of us have the time to go back to trade school to plan for some sort of post apocalyptic disaster scenario. I know how to do more than just type on a keyboard, but that is what I do for a living.

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We get your point. Unfortunately not all of us have the time to go back to trade school to plan for some sort of post apocalyptic disaster scenario. I know how to do more than just type on a keyboard, but that is what I do for a living.
You took the time to learn. Not many other people our age have. This is my point. If it came down to it you could use your other skills to make money and put food on the table for your family. Other people who just know computers can't say the same thing.

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Ok smart guy. What do you do for a living?
what currently pays the bills is a computer job. im getting out of that about as quickly as possible though for mechanical and machining type stuff. (technical terms, i know)

that doesn't have jack shit to do with why i think what i do.

There wont be the massive IT industry there is now, but computers wont be done away with like you are suggesting. everybody wont sit in front of a computer box to work all day like now. But, unless the machines have turned against us because of them there are lots and lots of uses that will stick around.

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I know people that can barely do their own job for a living much less swing a hammer. Lets just hope it doesn't come to that. If it becomes as bad as you envision we have more to worry about then knowing how to work on our own stuff, go watch/read The Road.

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i could never do some office job, i love my hands on job that fixes problems. and that guy whos the IT pro sitting behind some desk just shoveled over a good amount of his money cause he didn't know how to fix a flat tire on his jeep.

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OK to-shay.

I might be a little bias on this topic but it has chapped my hide for years that the system has promoted computer tech and thrown the skilled trades into the dirt.

This also helps explain the mind set of people as to the cost of mechanical service.People can't do it them selves yet place little value on the skills needed.

Some how over the years computer skills have over shadowed mechanical skills.
In my trade (tool making ) the computer has made the design guys job much easier. Especially when you consider the UNDO option the computer offers.
When it comes to the steel UNDO means welding.

Design it all you want with your computer you'll still need me to BUILD IT.

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what currently pays the bills is a computer job. im getting out of that about as quickly as possible though for mechanical and machining type stuff. (technical terms, i know)

that doesn't have jack shit to do with why i think what i do.

There wont be the massive IT industry there is now, but computers wont be done away with like you are suggesting. everybody wont sit in front of a computer box to work all day like now. But, unless the machines have turned against us because of them there are lots and lots of uses that will stick around.
Smart move. And I know computers will never go away I'm just saying that the job market is way saturated. Too many people are in IT and don't know anything else. A craft or a trade and learning to physically wrench on something is a smart move.

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I know people that can barely do their own job for a living much less swing a hammer. Lets just hope it doesn't come to that. If it becomes as bad as you envision we have more to worry about then knowing how to work on our own stuff, go watch/read The Road.
There are a lot of worthless people out there with horrible work ethics. I will look into "The Road".

Sometimes I wonder how people even get by with their work ethic. I got done more in 2 working days this week than a few people I work with do in a full week.

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No Just seems with white collar comes SNOB
Not taking side, but from this thread, seems the reverse could be said also.

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Yes You could call me defensive.Never a snob.

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i have always thought so.

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My whole thing is work ethic. Even if a person knew nothing but computers(white collar), I would think if they are hard working mofos they could figure something out if it all went away(blue collar). The problem I see if people doing nothing and wanting something, and doing the right thing even when noone is looking. Not enough people do it. Simple shit like picking up a piece of trash on the floor, how many people walk right by it?

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Well said. I agree

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I'm by no means bashing the IT trade. There is a lot talent and know-how that comes to play IT. Some of my job deals with communicating via SCADA software over IP.

But when I go over to a persons home who has become successful through an IT field and we go out in the garage and they don't even own a toolbox or a screwdriver, that worries me.

What also worries me is that same person knows everything about how to fix a motorcycle on the internet but doesn't even own basic tools. LOL! what a joke.

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