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I temporarily assembled the empty engine and put it in the frame so I could put the exhaust on and weld some mounts to the frame for the new mufflers.



Can anyone tell yet where I'm going with this bike from the style of exhaust I'm running? The top pipe has the upswept angle I want but I'm going to have to bend the lower pipe or weld a bend onto it to get the muffler to sit how it is in the picture. I couldn't resist tossing the carbs on there too just to get an idea of how it's all going to look. I need to order the tail section so I can make mounts for it, then the whole frame can come apart for sandblasting, removal of unnecessary brackets and paint or powdercoat.

The cylinders I had were unusable so I grabbed a set from Ebay and will send them out to Mike to check them and bore/hone as needed.
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the reverse cones up high make it look like a street tracker now and not a scrambler.

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I think that's the intent!

XR tail is next right?

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I think that's the intent!

XR tail is next right?
You cheated because I already told you . You and Vcook are both correct.

Fitting an XR style tail is going to be a challenge. I've gone back and forth on doing that or taking the easy way and using a cafe style tail that's made for the Honda 350s. The only way this bike will look right is with an XR tail so I've committed to going that route... The gas tank has a big opening at the back that's hidden by the stock seat. That opening will need to be filled and the rear tank mount may need to be modified. The stamped steel frame is ugly where it will now be exposed behind the shock mounts so I will have to do something with that too. I think I will cut the ugly off and replace it with round tube bent to match the lines of the XR tail. Gopher Glass makes a tail for Knight dirt track frames that should fit this bike well. It has a lower profile than a true XR tail which would look too big on this little bike.
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Have you been on the forums at www.flattrack.com? I'm sure those guys would have a bunch of supplier/fabricator suggestions for you.

Is the exposed frame problem area on both sides? I've seen a few guys use faux number plates to cover ugly bits.

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Steve, I've been waiting for you to come repo your banner .

Tom, I have access to welders and torches and whatnot at work so I don't need a fabricator. I can bend and weld whatever tube I need for the frame. I was looking at an Airtech tail with the number plates on it to hide the ugly. I don't like the look of the number plates but I could trim them off and leave enough material there to hide the ugly parts of the frame. That may end up being an easier option.
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The DTS7 here looks like it may be a good fit with the number plates trimmed way down, just leaving enough material to cover the frame: http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/...seats_dirt.htm

Tom, thanks for the reminder about using a tail with number plates. That might save me a lot of work. I think I will cobble together a mockup out of cardboard with the measurements Airtech gives so I can see if it will fit right and cover the frame how I want before I order one.
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Check out this idea I've had for a tail piece.

plastic over the back 6-8" of the tank and then lay glass over the plastic the shape would receive the taillight and offer the end of the seat some place to finish. all while hiding the battery.

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Check out this idea I've had for a tail piece.

plastic over the back 6-8" of the tank and then lay glass over the plastic the shape would receive the taillight and offer the end of the seat some place to finish. all while hiding the battery.
I can picture what you're talking about and that would work good and produce a tail that's proportioned well to the tank. One thing I've learned from working with fiberglass is that I really, really suck at working with fiberglass . The pre-made XR style tails from Airtech or Gopher Glass are nice and they're inexpensive enough to make it not worth trying to make one myself. With my fiberglass skills it would probably end up looking like a blind chimpanzee made it anyways .
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I ended up ordering the tail from Gopher Glass today. I did some staring at the frame last night and decided that cutting down one with number plates to hide the ugly bits of the frame would result in some goofy looking lines on the tail. I'll have to replace the ugly stamped steel frame bits behind the shock mounts with tube steel that I will bend to match the lines of the new tail. Then I can make a pan to go inside the frame rails and mount the electronics and a smaller battery on it. I was eye-ing the battery in my Zuma scooter and I suspect something similar to it will fit. It has no electric start any more so there is no need for a big battery.

The tail I ordered is the top one in this picture:


It was only $75 from Gopher Glass and he had it in stock to ship today.

Gus, I get what you're saying about making stuff yourself. I would rather use something I made than an off the shelf part but getting the shape of tail I want and ending up with a nice looking piece would have been difficult. Modifying the frame to fit this ready-made tail will be easier for me and produce a better end result than trying to make my own tail. My skills with bending and welding steel are far better than my fiberglass skills .
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Definitely will look sharper with that tail section...much cleaner. Much more raw, which is the damn intent of the street tracker in the first place

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That's a cool style I really dig the carb and pipe look

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The new tail came today.



It's damn near a perfect fit. It will be sitting all the way up against the back of the tank when it's done. The fuel tank mount is in the way now, that's why it's slid back an inch or so in the picture. With it up against the tank the widest point of the tail sits just above the shock mounts like it's supposed to.



I'll have to remove the rear gas tank mounts from the tank and frame, and make new mounts that will bolt on from underneath. That giant hole at the back of the tank will also need to be filled in. Oh and that white flap hanging down under the rear of the tail is just the paper towels I used to hold the back of the tail up where it belongs.

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Yeah baby.

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How will keep from getting burnt from those pipes?

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Ryan is a young lad. He doesn't have old man saggy balls that could get burned on those pipers like some people.

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I probably won't keep from getting burned . There was a heat shield on there but I don't like the way it looks. I'll probably end up wrapping them.
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I probably won't keep from getting burned . There was a heat shield on there but I don't like the way it looks. I'll probably end up wrapping them.
At least it wasn't me that took your thread to never/never land......

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most of us dicks are full of shit is that what you meant?

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This is a good one.

Those carbs are now sitting on my CL350.

It doesn't run. Yet, I suppose.


Kinda nice to reminisce. I was poking around in here, and I looked at the old rep system comments. Some connections to lots of conversations in there.

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Sure would be nice if we could somehow revive this place..........

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