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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-01-2012, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
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Kawi W650 or 90 NT Hawk 650

Guys,

right now I have a track only bike and have been itching for a classic looking bike that I can convert to cafe racer style. I have found 2 bikes that I think can make great cafe bikes.

2000 Kawi W650 & 90 NT650 Hawk.

Anyone here ever owned, ridden or worked on these? obviously the kawi is newer but they are both pretty mint.

Just looking for feedback

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I've never even heard of the W650, but after seeing pics I kind of want to buy one!

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I've never even heard of the W650, but after seeing pics I kind of want to buy one!
Same here. That's a cool bike

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Google "W650 cafe" and u will pick up what I'm putt'n down

The NT l can make look like a cafe or a NC30.

The Kwai is more expensive though.

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The kaw will never look the sport that the hawk is.

the kaw will never rail like a hawk can.

the hawk will never be as old school as the kaw.


Neither bike has a very good aftermarket following.

If these bikes are the only ones your considering for a build ??

I might suggest opening your horizons and take any one of many bikes that presents itself for a build.(cheap) do your research before buying and have a plan.

Base your plan around the style you want, and build what falls into your lap.(cheap)

Both of those bikes are to expensive to buy for a project.Unless you had a plan.

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I'd love to help but I don't chase parts.
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The hawk would be more fun but the kaw would be a fun cruiser. Those hawks look pretty sweet with a fork swap and a vfr rim.

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Guys,

right now I have a track only bike and have been itching for a classic looking bike that I can convert to cafe racer style. I have found 2 bikes that I think can make great cafe bikes.

2000 Kawi W650 & 90 NT650 Hawk.

Anyone here ever owned, ridden or worked on these? obviously the kawi is newer but they are both pretty mint.

Just looking for feedback
Buy the Hawk and tell me where to pick up the W650. LOL both cool bikes, but if your looking to cafe one I would have to say Kawi.

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W650 if I had to pick between the two . But.....you can pick up a Bonnie for the same coin as a W650 . The Bonnie has a huge aftermarket following and great bike .

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The kaw will never look the sport that the hawk is.

the kaw will never rail like a hawk can.

the hawk will never be as old school as the kaw.


Neither bike has a very good aftermarket following.

If these bikes are the only ones your considering for a build ??

I might suggest opening your horizons and take any one of many bikes that presents itself for a build.(cheap) do your research before buying and have a plan.

Base your plan around the style you want, and build what falls into your lap.(cheap)

Both of those bikes are to expensive to buy for a project.Unless you had a plan.
I have narrowed it down to a few that I am considering at this point. The W650 is a newer (retro) style without a lot of the bugs that are found in older 70's hondas, Kawi's and Yamaha's out there. Can they (70's cafe) be had for cheap, yes; but I would rather spend a little extra $ on some newer tech and not have to deal with issues that may be beyond my level of mechanical aptitude. I have looked at older cheaper bikes that I can build to suit my style and all of them had some type of issue the owner couldn't figure out. I can what I am looking to do with the Kawi or the Honda. Right now I have 2 directions, I could go vintage cafe with the W650 (I love that style) or sporty naked with the NT650 which I also love..

Yes they are expensive, Kawi is roughly $3k and the Honda I can find for around $2k both REALLY clean. I have some time to decide, like I mentioned before I have my track bike for railing at the track at this point I am looking for something I can have fun riding daily... A bigger part of me likes the W650 but damn I could do alot with the extra $1k and the Honda is a pretty bad ass bike too.

Bonnie's are great bikes too but I haven't seen any near the price range I am looking to spend..
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I"ve owned three hawks over the years and can confirm that they're a BLAST to ride (with only a few mods). and, they DO have a pretty strong following, so there is no shortage of stuff for them.
In order of mod importance:
1. Pipe and Jet Kit (Two Brothers, V&H or Kerker are all good).
2. Fork spring kit (progressive)
3. Seat (Corbin and Sargent are both excellent)
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Optional: (especially if you're doing track; these aren't needed for street)
4. Rear Shock replacement (Fox or White, if available)
5. Front End swap with CBR600f2 or f3
6. Piston replacement with larger (and re-bore) -- not really needed unless you're doing track days.

Pipe and Jet Kit are a must. This alone opens the bike up from a pokey POS to a nice, sweet flyer.

any more questions, let me know.

I've ridden one of these to alabama and back (and Deal's Gap) : hence the Seat replacement tip, LOL.
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I have ridden both, and the W650 is cool, and retro, but not the best handling thing I've ever ridden. I think it's also really hard to find parts for and is more expensive to deal with than a Hawk. I've owned several Hawks, and have loved them all. There's a cult following that if you find the right sources, you can find all sorts of mods and aftermarket stuff. +1 on pipe and jet kit and getting the suspension done. Super fun little bikes.

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