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1975 Indy Mile Images on .....

I know some are big fans,here are some real goods pics to archive.

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Already dug it this morning, good timing too....bought Indy Mile tix last night.

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reserved or infield?

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You know...the images on the Superbike Planet link are all well and good but the story as related on the link is historically incorrect. Gary Scott was not the rider who Roberts beat at the line (along with Jay Springsteen)...It was Corky Keener, # 62.
The banning of multi cylinder engines was a good thing, the power and unruly characteristics of the 3 and four cylinder engines, both 2 and four stroke would have made for racing that would have been exceptionally dangerous in a sport that was already exceptionally dangerous.
Unfortunately, with the demise of the Triumph /BSA/ Norton marques and the abandonment of further developement of the XS 650 punched to 750, the door was opened to the single brand domination of Harley Davidson. That's another discussion entirely.
I doubt KR will open up the TZ to its full potential next week, but even so the sound of that bike still rings in my ears to this day. It was scary fast and twice as scary to watch him take that sucker right up to the haybales while trying to bulldog it around the turns. I remember thinking he would crash before he ever caught Springer and ol' 62! Man...was I wrong.
There is footage of that night in a segment of the Peter Starr film titled "Take it to the Limit"...If the chance ever presents itself, see that movie...It's not as good as "On Any Sunday", but it shows some things OAS didn't and There are some interesting interviews with KR and Scott Autry (Great US speedway rider of the time) and Mike Hailwood.

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I doubt KR will open up the TZ to its full potential next week, but even so the sound of that bike still rings in my ears to this day. It was scary fast and twice as scary to watch him take that sucker right up to the haybales while trying to bulldog it around the turns. I remember thinking he would crash before he ever caught Springer and ol' 62! Man...was I wrong.
There is footage of that night in a segment of the Peter Starr film titled "Take it to the Limit"...If the chance ever presents itself, see that movie...It's not as good as "On Any Sunday", but it shows some things OAS didn't and There are some interesting interviews with KR and Scott Autry (Great US speedway rider of the time) and Mike Hailwood.
If I remember correctly, KR had a push button that killed half the engine in the corners correct?

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I couldn't say for sure about a kill switch that cut out 2 cylinders, but I don't think so. If you had been there and seen him struggle to slow that bike and keep it out of the fence/haybales in the turns you wouldn't think so...Kenny Roberts was not one of my favorite people...unlike Terry Poovey, Mike Kidd, Steve Eklund all the HD guys including Gary Scott and Springer, Ricky Graham and all the older guys like Nixon, Mann, Lawill and Neil Keen he was not a very nice guy. Too serious and businesslike and because of his talent he was dismissive and cold and expected royal treatment. Kind of like Chris Carr was a few years ago, although he's (Chris Carr) matured and mellowed...All that being said there is no denying that he was the most talented rider to ever flat track and road race. The only rider I hold above him is Dick Mann...Bugs could do all that Roberts did PLUS he was a first class tuner AND he could MX and ride/race off road (ISDT) as good as anyone in the world. If he had Roberts backing and financing his records would be untouchable to this day and beyond.
Word of advice...take your reserved ticket for the Indy Mile and go into the infield...the grandstand will be a BIG disappointment...all you will see is the top of helmets flashing by on the front straight!

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Yeah I've heard that about not being able to see the front straight. You'd think they would have resolved that problem in some fashion.

As for the kill switch, from Soup:

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They realized that the Champion Yamaha was, in essence, over-kill, so much so that in the final races of the '75 season Carruthers affixed a kill-switch to the number three cylinder on the Yamaha. Roberts would push the switch on the entrance to corners, killing the spark to that cylinder in order to tame the wickedness of the machine.
...and the whole article is here, good read:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/dontpaymeenuff.htm

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I think Indy was the first time KR rode the bike...Back then Indy was about mid season with the September/October western swing still to come with miles at San Jose and Santa Rosa and others. It is quite possible that kill switch was added after Indy. If you get the chance, ask KR. I bet he'd find it refreshing to have someone ask him an intelligent question about his racing instead someone slobbering and fawning all over him because he was a racing icon.

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I just may do that! ...and I can speak to that era fairly well for a 28 year old.

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Hey Tom...Let's make a point of at least meeting up to say hello at the mile in Springfield.
I do a lot of moving around and socializing with old racing friends up until the program starts and talking with you and your dad for a bit would be cool. I should still have your cell number, I'll give you a shout a week from Sunday. Have a good time in Indy.

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