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BHF improvements 12/28/2011

I was in the neighborhood yesterday and decided to stop at BHF to see what is in store for 2012.

The pavilion construction is still going on and the new building is much larger than before. it was also raised about a foot to prevent any water from coming inside. The pavilion will have a fire place in the middle as well.

three quarters of the track will be visible from the Observation Deck including from Turn 7 thru turn 2, turns 4, 5 and 6. The only blind spots are the Carousel, Bus Stop, 6A and the kink.

patching of Turn 7 and Turn 1 are completed.

It felt good to be at BHF again.

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Looks good. Hopefully the seams are as good as RA, you can roll right over them and not feel a thing.

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looks great, gonna have to do CCS or motovid to get to use it before the cars destroy the new patching

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lookin good! kinda with they extended the patch all the way to the apex but oh well.

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thats my questions too... why not go all the way to the curbing rather than leave that tins strip and give a nice continuous surface thru the corner

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maybe has something to do with just being a patch... i think they did the same thing at road A - but i also think they went much closer to the apex (although not "touching" it)

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dejan, did they just let you walk in?

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I'm surprised but happy that they are improving BHF. While I've never particularly liked the track it is my home track. Now if we could get some elevation changes and a few jumps like the Autobahn South to North transition (going north) then that would be cool.

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lookin good! kinda with they extended the patch all the way to the apex but oh well.
yeah, that sux.

it seems like the transition is not very smooth either. i think it will become even more important to hit that inch of an apex in t1 and t7. and i hate those patches at RA.

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i hope it looks better in person than in the pictures.

pavilion looks cool though.

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Tea, dont worry about the patches. They arent bad. Even the track conditions last year were much better than they were pre 01. Back then you set your bikeup like a dirt bike. There were ripples in T3 mid track so if you got off line you felt like going over railroad ties. Plus no air fences anywheres, big tree near the track going into T5, tire wall was closer in T1 than it is now, hardly any runoff in T7 before you get muddy, couldnt see through T2 and there was a, 8" ditch right next to the apex of T2 (a guy in front of me cut the corner and hit it sending him airborne across the track. Bent both rims. He didnt go down though).

Rebuilding the buildings is long past due. My guess the tower is next. They do need a whole new radio system to replace the crappy ones they have (think they are waiting until they have to go digital). Track surface is 10 yrs old. May get repaved in the next couple years, I dunno. It is alot safer than it used to be.

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I can't hit either apex so those look perfect!

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Like it was mentioned earlier it looks just how Road America was years ago ( I say it like that because I have not gone back after many years after the strips of repave in the corners). I know it costs a fortune but I was really hoping for a repave of the full corner not just a strip of it.
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I know what you mean. Those strip repaves just don't seem to last longer than a season. You've got to dig all the way down to dirt, and lay down some thick concrete as a base. Asphalt will just curl up when the cars hit it.
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Even if you do hit the apex within an inch you're going to roll over the seam cause you start on the patch and have to transition off of it to nail the apex. The alternative is to just use the patch as the pavement and the old pavement as the rumble strip but that just seems silly. Last years patches to RA were done the exact same way and it really isn't an issue, I didn't notice any difference in grip between the patch and the old pavement and the seam wasn't bad at all, hardly noticeable. It's more mental really, seeing the two different color pavements and expecting a big jump as you cross over, hopefully BHF is the same way and the transition will be minimal.

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I don't know, Jeremy.
I thought those patches at RA are super slippery. i shrug each time i'm off the apex and my tires are on the patch.

i hate RA to begin with, so maybe it's just me. but others mentioned they were slippery..

they should have just gone to the rumblestrip. couldn't have cost that much more.

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I don't know, Jeremy.
I thought those patches at RA are super slippery. i shrug each time i'm off the apex and my tires are on the patch.

i hate RA to begin with, so maybe it's just me. but others mentioned they were slippery..

they should have just gone to the rumblestrip. couldn't have cost that much more.
They're not more slippery. You do feel a little movement sometimes as the tire passes over the seam. But the traction is fine. The paint when it's wet is a different story.

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We will have to wait how much damage will the cars do to the new patch as it is in their braking zone.

Some adjustment of the "racing line" in T7 may be required.

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I don't know, Jeremy.
I thought those patches at RA are super slippery. i shrug each time i'm off the apex and my tires are on the patch.

i hate RA to begin with, so maybe it's just me. but others mentioned they were slippery..

they should have just gone to the rumblestrip. couldn't have cost that much more.
i agree, you've already torn out that much, whats a couple more feet...

the patches at R/A are a tad slippery in the morning but once the track got some heat in it it wasn't too bad. I used to love that place but its so hard on a bike LOL

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We will have to wait how much damage will the cars do to the new patch as it is in their braking zone.

Some adjustment of the "racing line" in T7 may be required.
yea i don't anticipate it lasting all that long, i would have preferred the concrete like they did in the bus stop

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looks like a ton of traction. Cars will dig that shit up and it will be nice and rough like I like it. I will miss the army tank track marks in T1

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...it will be nice and rough like I like it.

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plus more discolor on the track gives you more markers.

Jordan, you doing Topeka this year?

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plus more discolor on the track gives you more markers.

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nope, too soon.

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I would still like to get out there with a chain saw and remove some trees in T2 T5

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I would still like to get out there with a chain saw and remove some trees in T2 T5
WHat trees?


Dude you should had raced here before they moved the corner station in T2 BACK. Also they had a HUGE tree near the backdoor in T5.

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