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Moto-vid track day 6-13-2012 Cr over reacting

Action starts at 5:00.

Best part. "go out there and have some more fun, make sure you just kill yourself and no one else" unknown motovid CR

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I can't hear the CR, what did he do wrong? Second question, why is that conversation 5 minutes long?

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he tried to pass him on the outside, let up because he didn't think he'd make it before the kink, then the whatever you wanna call him, cut throat him to go in and proceeded to tell him that he was riding reckless and that he was too close to the rider in the kink after the bus stop (that was his excuse anyhow) its quite comical if you turn it up to listen, but the line is drawn when you tell someone to go out and kill yourself on the track.. poor choice of words and poor choice of flexing the authority of a "cr" lol

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Another teachable moment lost. It's really no wonder the youth are out of control and passing on the outside these days! CR guy needs to be more secure in his position and learn how to give constructive criticism.
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Another teachable moment lost. It's really no wonder the youth are out of control and passing on the outside these days! CR guy needs to be more secure in his position and learn how to give constructive criticism.
I don't think there was any criticism to give, it was a clean move well within the rules. He showed a wheel, looked to see if he could complete the pass on the outside of turn 3 before going through the tight section, turned out he didn't quite have enough room so he backed out and slotted in behind the CR. In my opinion he did everything right, I would have complimented him for his good judgement on backing out of the pass. I and many other riders pull that exact same move because many times you can go around the outside there, but you need to get it done early in the corner, and if you get that far in and aren't through yet, you back out just like he did. I think he executed the pass attempt perfectly.

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I agree completely and was being sarcastic save for the last sentence regarding the CR's insecurity and inability to dispense anything but speech that could induce violence had he went off like that on the wrong person.
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I agree completely and was being sarcastic save for the last sentence regarding the CR's insecurity and inability to dispense anything but speech that could induce violence had he went off like that on the wrong person.
Oh I gotcha, it's hard to figure out when some parts are sarcastic and others aren't on an internet post :-p Yeah, nobody wants brawls in pitout.... unless... Humm UFC and Motorcycle racing combined, this could actually be a good sport.... lol

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ok lets get this short...

CR was not up to task >>>> got butt hurt >>>> joins CLSB.
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Clean attempt to pass ..... agree with poke, it was a teaching opportunity lost.


The CR ( IMO ) was not spending enough time looking to see what the rider was doing.


I am still not clear what he was upset about ..... you fuck that move up and you
wind up doing the grass - yardsale all by yourself.


If you wanted to go racing you could have railed him up the inside into turn 1.


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Was this in I or Novice? either way that guy over reacted big time, the bike he was talking about watching looked pretty far ahead of both you, and you backed off on time well before the exit, I would had the same reaction to the CR if he started up on me like that, sucks for him that the video is out though lol
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The rider, Lee, rides in I. I'm not sure who the CR is. This is freaking ridiculous.
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Maybe someone needs to post this on Motovids FB page.
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Maybe someone needs to post this on Motovids FB page.
I messaged Casper and gave him a heads up and a link to this thread. I thought you were the Motovid CR Captain Steve, is that accurate?

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I messaged Casper and gave him a heads up and a link to this thread. I thought you were the Motovid CR Captain Steve, is that accurate?
Give him also a heads up on all the viral FB posts... lol

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Umm yeah that vid is spreading like wild fire.
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I want to say this....

I like riding bikes, I love riding on track, I have no beef with anyone on track ( well except Brian Blume... LOL, nah we are all cool...)
I rode with all 3 local groups ( well now only 2 left...) and also with people down south and went to a school...

Every Organisation has its little things that display to the outside and give the Organisation its reputation, even if they are only a small perception of the whole Organisation.
Yes Nesba was a big clique, STT has maybe not the fastest CR's, Motovid has CR's that have other interest than the paying customers...

This guy acted like a douchebag, and should not wear a shirt or "instruct" people.

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Lets just make a hostile take over...

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Give him also a heads up on all the viral FB posts... lol
Yep, I mentioned that as well.

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1) That control rider was slow as molasses unless he was trailing a student to study his lines.

2) Unless Motovid doesn't allow outside passing on intermediate levels (which I wouldn't see why they wouldn't) he really didn't do anything wrong. He didn't even pass him. hmmm looked like the cr was a bit butt hurt.
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Yep, I mentioned that as well.

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I really cant comment on this and I have a lot of intel on it, other than to say that not all CR's are out for their own intent. I for one, and I know the coach in this vid, are those types of people. (He really is) Ask anyone I worked with yesterday, I could really care less about my laptimes other than to gauge how others are doing. One incident does not make an organization, and for all we know there could be more back story and previous history than the video suggests. People make mistakes, thats why we are human. For a CR, it can be that much easier to get a moment in time caught in your brain incorrectly. While customers are working on their riding, we are working on evaluating, moderating track density where possible, and trying to ensure a safer environment for all of the bikes on the track. Our brains get overloaded too, cut us some slack, we TRY to help.

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I really cant comment on this and I have a lot of intel on it, other than to say that not all CR's are out for their own intent. I for one, and I know the coach in this vid, are those types of people. (He really is) Ask anyone I worked with yesterday, I could really care less about my laptimes other than to gauge how others are doing. One incident does not make an organization, and for all we know there could be more back story and previous history than the video suggests. People make mistakes, thats why we are human. For a CR, it can be that much easier to get a moment in time caught in your brain incorrectly. While customers are working on their riding, we are working on evaluating, moderating track density where possible, and trying to ensure a safer environment for all of the bikes on the track. Our brains get overloaded too, cut us some slack, we TRY to help.
Hey Kegger, you were in my mind as the total opposite of what this guy did...

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Sorry but the CR in this vid shows a lack of communication skills, judgement, and knowledge to be a CR. Yes its tough to ride all day in the heat helping lots of different riders but that is skill of being a track instructor. In half a lap he incorrectly recalls where it happens and how it happens. The one thing he does remember is that the rider passed him on the outside earlier which upset him. He basically had it out for the rider from the start of the session and was looking for a reason. That is not a way to treat paying customers. There are a bunch of quality staff there that I know would have handled this differently. Unfortunately for this guy, the video speaks for itself.

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