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Race season





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New bore with 81mm Ross pistons.
Crank bearings
valve job
2nd jen cam.

hoping for near 80hp


Props to Mike(ceptor) on cyl's that spec out great.

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Keep posting crap like this and I'm going to bring you another one to do. I want 90+ HP I have to compensate

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Yeah, what happened to 90 HP SVs?
i think they blew up?

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i think they blew up?
Watch your mouth, it did not blow up...

The superbike motor had 4 race seasons on it and early last year during a test and tune at grattan I shifted into 4th and the trans locked up. We have a solid, reliable 90 hp SV700 that runs on pump gas. On U4 it was pushing past 95. The trans is the first thing to go in the cases during assembly and the last thing to come out. This is not that motor. The superbike motor is next.

The motor Gus is working on still ran fine but had a funny clatter so we pulled it from the frame. We suspected connecting rod bearings but come to find out we had sloppy pistons and cylinders. He also just discovered the Hyabusa rods in the picture do not spec out. So I have to dig through and find some nicer ones in the spares bin.

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Yeah, what happened to 90 HP SVs?
The 1mm over kit with the flat slide carbs should make more than 80. With the stock carbs it will make over 75.

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i mean no disprespect at all, its just that anytime a motor is pushed to those levels they dont live as long, and generally die in a more spectacular fashion

also i didnt know that you had any troubles with your sv motors, be it engine internals or the trans attached to it, i was mostly attempting to be funny

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Truth be told the motors last longer on the race track. The street miles are worse.

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Truth be told the motors last longer on the race track. The street miles are worse.
really? i would never have suspected that.

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really? i would never have suspected that.
The wet sump twins croak when they are riden in the prone position for extended periods of time.

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What's Ed K. bike putting out? besides the weight difference, that thing must be pretty strong...

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Just around 100hp plus or minus a few. But that's the thing, his chassis setup is rediculous.

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really? i would never have suspected that.
when was the last time you were wot at the track in 6th for more than 2-3 seconds let alone 2-3 minutes like you can on the street?
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when was the last time you were wot at the track in 6th for more than 2-3 seconds let alone 2-3 minutes like you can on the street?
2-3 mins WOT in 6th on the street... never
on the track 2-3 sec...never i think, 5th maybe

so the steady state running(street) is harder on the sv motor than is continual up and down with high demand(track), i honestly would thing it would have been the other way around, ive learned something new today

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It's the street stunting that kills them

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when was the last time you were wot at the track in 6th for more than 2-3 seconds let alone 2-3 minutes like you can on the street?
Road America on the SV. Wide open EVERYFUCKINGWHERE!

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Road America on the SV. Wide open EVERYFUCKINGWHERE!
Tim said once he is going to take a book with him to read.... I thought that was funny until I watched his helmet cam Vids...

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Tim said once he is going to take a book with him to read.... I thought that was funny until I watched his helmet cam Vids...
All kinds of stuff goes through my head going down the straights at RA. Like whether or not I tighened my axle pinch bolts, did check the oil in the van and what I'm having for dinner later.

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All kinds of stuff goes through my head going down the straights at RA. Like whether or not I tighened my axle pinch bolts, did check the oil in the van and WHO I'm having for dinner later.
I fed it for ya...

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Is the valve job done? Maybe we could install larger valves. As far as the con rods.........if you have a spec, we may be able to resize them.

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Wished he had a 90hp pump gas reliable motor in an SV. Seriously jealous. Those friggin' bikes are faster than GSXR600s at Blackhawk!

I want, I want, I want.

Congrats on the new build, glad you tracked down the problem. I need to pull my current SV motor, and get things checked out. Also, I have a spare motor that needs to be built to the 90hp spec when and if I ever have spare moolah...

Folks Gus and Nick are THE guys to go to if you want to know how to build a bullet proof SV.

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We will be talking more. Who's got some flat slides for sale.

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Nick and Gus thats funny.
What came first the chicken or the egg.LOL

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Truth is the spec is the same the extra horse is only safe with the light and balanced crank, heavy duty studs and such the horse power comes from the bolt on stuff.

I spend a little extra time on the anal stuff but there's no real HP in those things.

The second jen cam swap and flat slides along with some tight high compression cyl. and you've got 80 plus horse.

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Nick and Gus thats funny.
What came first the chicken or the egg.LOL
The order that I met them in, why, of COURSE!

As far as the going fast part, BUILD it first (Gus), Ride it second (Nick).

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Mike the C,Rods may come your way.
The big end is specking at .005 clearance with the tightest bearings available.we are in the process of finding Hyabusa #'s and the bearings for that c,rod.

This bike has a mix of parts I'm still trying to figure out.
This motor has had loose bearings (without any real trouble for years )I think 4&6 built it quite loose in the first place.
We took it apart because Nick heard some Knocking last summer.I'm thinking we saved the crank from any further demise.

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I'm not sure if building motors for others would prove so rewarding.

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