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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 03-07-2011, 10:10 PM Thread Starter
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A buddy found this after tearing his bike apart to fix for riding this year. I told him I would post here and see what others say.

Is it fixable without replace engine case?
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make sure its clean and oil free first. I personally wouldn't do it on someone elses bike. I'm not that good yet.

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JB weld- its fixable!
Keep laughing I did it, worked great too.

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With proper prep work , JB or the like will repair it .

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I'd be shopping for a used engine, but i've heard of plenty of people JB welding damage like that.

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I'd be shopping for a used engine, but i've heard of plenty of people JB welding damage like that.
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That's under the stator cover ?
Its my guess not to much oil in there or I'd hope he'd have found it sooner !!

Tin plate and some epoxy type of stuff.

There are a lot of newer epoxy products available.Worth a try if your not losing any real amount of oil.

What the hell we all know it needs a new case but who the hell has money for that??

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Yes Gus

Yea I told him JB also

I think he might of found someone to weld it. Personally I would JB that shit and ride it like a raped ape!!

New engine not worth it in this case. $5-800 on ebay.


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Maybe Pilot? He is one of the best welders here.
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That's under the stator cover ?
Its my guess not to much oil in there or I'd hope he'd have found it sooner !!

Tin plate and some epoxy type of stuff.

There are a lot of newer epoxy products available.Worth a try if your not losing any real amount of oil.

What the hell we all know it needs a new case but who the hell has money for that??
i just said clean it because in the pic i saw oil around it. maybe that was from the disassembly to get to that point? idunno. either way there is oil in the pic, but you're right for sure.

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Maybe Pilot? He is one of the best welders here.
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there's def alot of oil slinging around in there. thru that hole behind the flywheel, is the crankshaft. It's weldable, if he has the piece that fits in there. It's not a load bearing area, unless the bike is on its side, so any jackoff that can weld aluminum should be able to take care of it.

used engine would be my second choice.
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Im guessing he crashed it, and its been sitting ever since with a small puddle on the floor?
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I've had broken cases welded before at the local weld shop.

I've seen JB Weld hold together stuff like that before too.

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Yea he fucked up last year on it doing stupid shit. Young dumb and fulla well you know

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Maybe Pilot? He is one of the best welders here.
He's pretty good. I know that Bruce is the fukin man though. Dude can weld titanium in his sleep.

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Keep laughing I did it, worked great too.
Been holding for me for abt 3 years on a similar repair. Except mine was where the bolt goes.

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Stan, I have no idea if you can weld (just never came up), but Jason does reay nice work.

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He's pretty good. I know that Bruce is the fukin man though. Dude can weld titanium in his sleep.
I agree, Bruce is solid. I have suggested him before. Dunnu why I didnt say him too. Sorry Bruce.
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Stan, I have no idea if you can weld (just never came up), but Jason does reay nice work.
I didnt know he did that . I dont have a tig guy , will keep him in mind .

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ugh that sucks

not by me, NFW... aluminum is a finicky bitch, and the oil contamination will only compound it. aluminum die castings are quite porous and the oil will go deep so a good amount should be ground out then chemically cleaned to remove all traces of oil

a few years ago I had the hang of tig on aluminum, not anymore though and its an art that quickly goes to shit without practice. im trying to practice at work when i get the chance since I like welding on aluminum and its a rather uncommon skill, i just dont have much opportunity to do it
if it were steel or the like itd be no problem

my first thoughts with this was to plate it and jb weld it but like nick says its a temporary fix and i have no idea how long something like that would hold, it might be a few hours it might be months to years... no idea

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Once upon a time, I had 4&6 weld up my F3 with very similar damage.
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Once upon a time, I had 4&6 weld up my F3 with very similar damage.
+1 me too. I had them weld up stuff also. Bummer that we don't have the luxury to use them anymore.
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chey does your friend have the missing chunk?

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having the missing piece would help if you b weld, or use PC7, I've done it and it lasted a couple years till I sold it
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No. He never found it while taking the bike apart


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