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Question about frame sliders

I got a brand new set for a 2007 Triumph Daytona 675. Will they fit a 1997 GSX-R600?
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It looks tight I'm not sure if they will fit they are the offset ones. Also I do not have directions or a brand name for these.
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only one way to find out, try em, i have several stray ones, new and used, no offset brackets though if that bike uses them

Edit,,,, seek an educated opinion if you have not done this b4, it may require cutting the fairing, or go on e-bay and get the right ones cheap
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Ok they will not fit. What brand should I look for or does it matter? Also do you guys recommend the rear frame sliders to? I believe it already has the ones on the handle bars.

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frame sliders are a real mixed bag

on one hand they can hold the bike and its frame up off the ground possibly preventing frame damage in the event of a crash adn slide

on the other hand they can contribute to the bike flipping and tumbling by snagging on the ground, also when they snag they can bend at their attachment point which in many cases is an engine mount bolt potentially leading to damage to the frame mount point or engine case.

with that in mind, the probable 2 best brands are woodcraft and LSL

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for cheaper ones i really like Intuitive ? brand, and i like to just cut the hole in the fairing over using an offset bracket
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frame sliders are a real mixed bag

on one hand they can hold the bike and its frame up off the ground possibly preventing frame damage in the event of a crash adn slide

on the other hand they can contribute to the bike flipping and tumbling by snagging on the ground, also when they snag they can bend at their attachment point which in many cases is an engine mount bolt potentially leading to damage to the frame mount point or engine case.
Biggest causes of this is the long ones. No reason to have them sticking beyond an inch or 2 from the frame. (The Intuitive ones I have are 1.75" from the frame. Sticks out the body by an inch). Make sure they are durlon/urethane/plastic. Metal ones cause alot of stress on bolts. Personally I wouldnt trust the "no cut" ones that use brackets to move them to an opening in the bodywork.

Theres no guarantee that they will protect the frame completely. No guarantee that they will cause the bike to barrel roll when it hits the grass (BTW I've seen bikes WITHOUT them barrell roll when its hits the grass also).

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Preferred material is Delrin. UHMW and Nylon can be used but are too soft and grind away too fast. Alum and any other metal will not absorb the impact, it will just transfer the full blow to its mounting point.

Offset brakets can work if designed correctly. Stay away from single point mounts withthe slider offset. This creates more leverage on the bolt and the plates will tend to bend and or fail. A 2-3 bolt mounting plate can be used to move the slider to a more desirable location. Some bikes do not have any good direct mounting point.

Length of the slider should be at max 1-1/2" beyond the fairings. The longer the slider the more legerage on the mounting bolt.

Sliders are designed to REDUCE the amount of damage your bike will sustain in the event of a lowside. Fairings are cosmetic and if they are saved its a bonus.

Yes they stick out from the bike. Kinda designed to. :P they can catch on things like dirt, mud, pot holes curbs etc. So does lots of other things, mufflers, foot pegs, handle bars etc. This can possibly lead to the bike tumbling. They can also act like and anchor and slow the bike down in soft ground surfaces.

If you could guarantee every crash can be predictable and the same, you could design something to accomplish the best protection for the bike. But...... since we cannot, we can only try to design sliders to reduce frame damage under most circumstances. Can sliders fail. YES. But, for the most part a quality slider will be the difference between riding the bike home and having it towed home.

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I am not an expert at this at all, but I was looking at sliders for the last few days.
The bike I have does not have body work and they would be primarily to protect the radiator and possibly the engine.

I have a couple different sets.
As I was looking at crash photo's it looked like on some of them the aluminium relocation bracket.bent absorbing some of the impact that would have gone directly to the motor-mount or other mounting location. Some I looked at relocated to what I would consider a bad spot, directly at one of the camshaft ends on the head.

Champ91 has made nice frame sliders for CLSB members in the past, Not sure if he still does.

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I would take a look at motovation sliders. Debating sliders is kinda like debating oil, but they have some good info about the components they use on their website.

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As I was looking at crash photo's it looked like on some of them the aluminium relocation bracket.bent absorbing some of the impact that would have gone directly to the motor-mount or other mounting location.
I had a relocating slider and it bent and almost hit the engine block.
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Ohfugit - I still make sliders for the Kawi's. I changed jobs a couple years back and lost the abilityto make the one off's during lunch. I have a lot of parts left in the garage that I could put something together.

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