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Water Wetter VS Amsoil Coolant Boost...

A lot of track riders on here,
so I'm sure there are a bunch of water wetter users .
Here is a good read.

Tested both for corrosion protection

https://www.amsoil.com/news/2011_Apr...pdf?zo=1667299

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I think thats where the " was conducted in a independent laboratory " part comes in.

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Engine Ice....ftw.
Engine Ice is a "Propylene Glycol Base Engine Coolant"

Water wetter and Coolant Boost are products that can be added to straight water , or water /anti freeze mix to protect against corrosion and help lower tems with better heat transfer.

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Race org legal?
It is a additive just like watter wetter,
here is the paragraph from the NESBA rules

"Anti-freeze is very slippery and decreases
available traction to the equivalent of ice. It is also very difficult
to clean up and has to be flushed with large amounts of water, which is
usually not available at the track. Engine Ice and Evans-type coolants
are NO longer permitted! Water Wetter is permitted."

I do know it is legal at our race track,( Grundy County Speedway)

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Engine Ice....ftw.
not entirely track legal...


whats the cost difference between the 2 products?

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their 12ounce bottle sells for 9.95 on Amazon

our 16 ounce bottle retails for $11.10 but the CLSB discount brings it down below the watter wetter price

not sure of the mixing ratio of the WW
but our stuff you mix it like this,
For straight water applications, add 2 fl. oz. of Coolant Boost per quart of tap or softened water. For 50/50 coolant/water applications, add 1 fl . oz. of Coolant Boost per quart of 50/50 mix.

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keep sum on hand shady, i'll get some in a few weeks. i would like to try it.
i've always used ww in my bike.

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I am picking up a case or 2 tonight when I go to the distribution center.

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Ill take some. Really just tap water?

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Ill take some. Really just tap water?
^ what he said. I am lookin to change my coolant before my trackday and this would be perfect. Are you ever in the nw burbs or the city or do you stay down in joliet?
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i wouldnt use tap water, a gallon of distilled is only like a dollar

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^ what he said. I am lookin to change my coolant before my trackday and this would be perfect. Are you ever in the nw burbs or the city or do you stay down in joliet?
I'm sure someone can bring it to Winks tech day in Barrignton on the 16th if you plan on going

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Are you ever in the nw burbs or the city or do you stay down in joliet?
I live out south of Joliet, But I make a weekly trip to Wood Dale on Thursday evenings.

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I'm sure someone can bring it to Winks tech day in Barrignton on the 16th if you plan on going
You think i would be able to do my coolant and rearset install there?
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i wouldnt use tap water, a gallon of distilled is only like a dollar


Their directions are to use Tap

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Directions: With engine off and cool, make sure cooling system is filled with selected coolant. Shake bottle and pour calculated amount of Coolant Boost into radiator. Start engine, turn heat on high and run for 15 minutes. Do NOT use distilled water unless mixed with 50% antifreeze.

Dosage: For straight water applications, add 2 fl. oz. of Coolant Boost per quart of tap or softened water. For 50/50 coolant/water applications, add 1 fl . oz. of Coolant Boost per quart of 50/50 mix.

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see post #29

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I would really like to know why the specifically say not to use distilled water in a straight water application. Seems odd.
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i do know that distilled water is a more "agressive" solvent than tap water would be simply because it isnt already partially saturated with minerals

if that is the case and is the difference in the testing between the water wetter and coolant boost, it could go towards explaining how they got the corrosion numbers down

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It is a additive just like watter wetter,
here is the paragraph from the NESBA rules

"Anti-freeze is very slippery and decreases
available traction to the equivalent of ice. It is also very difficult
to clean up and has to be flushed with large amounts of water, which is
usually not available at the track. Engine Ice and Evans-type coolants
are NO longer permitted! Water Wetter is permitted."

I do know it is legal at our race track,( Grundy County Speedway)
Just to be specific WATER WETTER is allowed, or water only on the track for NESBA. NOTHING else at this point.

I just read both the PDF and the website, I don't see where it says what the Amsoil solution is made of. Please provide the info related to what it is made out of if you could please.

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here is the MSDS
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I would really like to know why the specifically say not to use distilled water in a straight water application. Seems odd.
It has to do with the aluminum parts of in your cooling system,I will compose a nice reply later tonight or tomorrow, I am leaving here right now,

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does it pass inspection wink?
I sure am doing a lot of reading to find out the ingredients. Still no luck.

So NO, it does not pass inspection at this point for NESBA.

I'd be happy to review the ingredients if provided, and if it does compare with Water Wetter, I'll suggest approval to NESBA. Not reading any more documents at this point, please provide the ingredients directly and the reference document for confirmation.

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post up the info wink requested shady, i am a nesbian as well and need this to
pass any/all tech inspections. after goin through that amsoil info/product booklet
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I sure am doing a lot of reading to find out the ingredients. Still no luck.

So NO, it does not pass inspection at this point for NESBA.

I'd be happy to review the ingredients if provided, and if it does compare with Water Wetter, I'll suggest approval to NESBA. Not reading any more documents at this point, please provide the ingredients directly and the reference document for confirmation.

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post up the info wink requested shady, i am a nesbian as well and need this to
pass any/all tech inspections. after goin through that amsoil info/product booklet
u gave me i am curious on many of the products, good stuff for sure

here is what I have to offer as far as type of water,

Distilled water is very much like ionized water. Since it has a polar charge, not neutral like tap or softened water, it will attempt to steal minerals from the surrounding metals in a cooling system to balance the positive/negative charges. A 50/50 mix of anti-freeze is safe to use with distilled water, and doesn’t apply to this rule. This is why Amsoil recommends using ONLY tap or softened water when not using anti-freeze. The additives in Dominator Coolant Boost will not allow any additional corrosion to occur, as it would when using straight water only.

I will search for a answer to Wink's question

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I sure am doing a lot of reading to find out the ingredients. Still no luck.

So NO, it does not pass inspection at this point for NESBA.

I'd be happy to review the ingredients if provided, and if it does compare with Water Wetter, I'll suggest approval to NESBA. Not reading any more documents at this point, please provide the ingredients directly and the reference document for confirmation.

Trying to help you out here.
I sent a Email off to NESBA last night pertaining to this topic...

here was the reply I received just now.


Thank you for contacting us.

The Beginner and Intermediate groups are not required to change out coolant. I am not sure of the other companies additives. I will check and find out more.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Please use this link to rate the response you received in this email.

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