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hey all... 2008 cbr600rr 38k miles, recently did my fork seals... work great put all back together.

Testing, I got a super loud grinding and screeching sound tore it back apart bearings are completely shredded, half even missing... rode to AZ with the forks leaking and even more once back here. < had to...

stuck waiting for bikebandit to ship new bearings

While testing before taking back apart I kept having to pump the brakes to get pressure back (after initial pump, few min after riding they dissapear and have to repump, min later lose again);

so the question is, Will this change after get the new bearings in? The brakes were fine before this. Did have a ripple through the forks from left to right not sure if that bearing off balance would have anything to do with the brakes having to be pumped back up.

Never messed with the brakes 75% still on them, took off, put right back on and fluid is full, never opened, never bled since bought it brand new. 3rd set of pads. forks are exactly same position by the ware marks and vertically even

Am i just too worried n the bearings will fix it?
is there an alternative cause for the brakes to fail like that?

cant test till get the bearings, ordered yesterday doH
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Is this a serious question?

Pretending it is.

1. Your brake fluid is 3 years old and MUST be changed
2. Changing forks has nothing to do with brakes, unless you have, for some unknown reasons, messed with them. This does not count removing them from the disk.
3. Bearings in the forks? Really?!
4. I suspect you have somehow touched the brake lines and let air in.

STOP IN THE NAME OF ....insert your what ever....

You might want someone who knows brakes look at them before you do any more damage to it.

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I suggest you bring the bike to someone who knows what the fuck they are doing. Seriously. Your front wheel bearings are cashed because you are missing a spacer or have them on the wrong sides. Your brakes dont work because you have a failed component (caliper,master cylinder) or a leak at a fitting somewhere. Take it to a professional before you hurt yourself.

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I think he is talking about bad wheel bearings. If that is the case, and they were really bad, yes they can cause the problem you're describing. As the wheel wobbles back and forth on the bad bearings the rotors will push the caliper pistons back in, causing the brakes to not work until you pump them enough to push the pistons back out.
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You need to take it to Chicago Performance or another professional to do the work right. Then to find what else is screwed up that you may not know about.

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I think he is talking about bad wheel bearings. If that is the case, and they were really bad, yes they can cause the problem you're describing. As the wheel wobbles back and forth on the bad bearings the rotors will push the caliper pistons back in, causing the brakes to not work until you pump them enough to push the pistons back out.

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You need to take it to Chicago Performance or another professional to do the work right. Then to find what else is screwed up that you may not know about.

Just don't tell me you read how to do your own fork seals on line with a PVC pipe.
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can spend $20,000 on special tools from GM, then I would need the same from the other car manuf

I can cut $5,000 just getting a universal seal installer.
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if you're missing a wheel spacer your wheel could be moving side to side and pushing your brake pistons back in.. From reading what you wrote I have no idea what you were actually doing to your bike though. I'm still confused as to if you replaced your wheel bearings or fork bushings, or ???

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Agree. Brakes and suspension are of primary importance, right behind the helmet hook and sliding your forks up to compensate.
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I think he is talking about bad wheel bearings. If that is the case, and they were really bad, yes they can cause the problem you're describing. As the wheel wobbles back and forth on the bad bearings the rotors will push the caliper pistons back in, causing the brakes to not work until you pump them enough to push the pistons back out.
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and if the wheel was wobbling that much there's a decent chance the hub, or maybe even the rotor are a litted effed up too.
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my bad meant wheel bearings

the brakes were fine.
I fixed the fork seals they were simple. no pvc lol its mechanical a monkey could do it

now waiting to replace the wheel bearings... bikebandit takes for ever on small parts...

testing before realizing the bearings were gone i found the brake pumping problem...

the bearings and fork seals are just coincidental... but to post all the recent activity cause their is no reason for the brakes to fail like that.. have taken them off and put them back on bunch of times no problems... no pulling or rubbing while removing that i know of took extra care.

i was thinking with the bearing in the wheel shredded has to offset the wheel a little maybe not lining the pad flat to the caliper or something causing unevenness.

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i say this is
While the bike has been down the brakes do keep pressure while off the caliper.... just not while it was on the bike with the bearings shot...thats why it dont make sense and i dont think its the master cylinder...

i know their completely seperate but the alignment seems to be the reason

i never took the bearings out when i took the tire off and put it back on its not a wrong side thing or missing... took a lot of bumps while the forks were leaking enough to crush the bearings...

never thought to change the brake fluid, its brake fluid lasts forever it eats trees...still has good color there is no evident leaks. dont fix it less its broke

so to never have opened up the brake system and the brake keeping pressure while off the caliper pushed me to think that has something to do with the alignment on the wheel and not keeping full pressure cause its got to be off balance by the wheel bearing maybe a millimeter who knows.... the brakes were fine till the wheel bearing started grinding, literally screaming

more over I was just looking for more ideas

i dont get one idea and run with it i look all over get many ideas then go to the bike or what ever working on.

have to wait to get the bearings once i do i can test further and see if was just alignment or any of the suggestions here. just trying to brainstorm and give enough info so can find the solution. so to not be waiting once have the bearings in hand put it all back together and hopefully ride or fix whats wrong on the brakes.

I wrench my own bike as much as possible would rather use this as a learning experience they wanted 400$ to do my forks got it done for 140$ my self in parts replaced extra, more than just the seals. i've worked on tuns of more technical equipment than this i use to wrench on experimental aerobatic aircraft, hotrods and motorcycles all the time. not like im new to this.

and dont take this as i wouldn't look into these suggestions just trying to find the least invasive and expensive process.. yes will change brake fluid yet, not till I get the bearings so to not start in on another area at same time.

brakes kept pressure all night and still keeping pressure off the caliper

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I think he is talking about bad wheel bearings. If that is the case, and they were really bad, yes they can cause the problem you're describing. As the wheel wobbles back and forth on the bad bearings the rotors will push the caliper pistons back in, causing the brakes to not work until you pump them enough to push the pistons back out.
yeah this is more along what im thinking cause they keep the pressure off the caliper

im not that good at explanation i could draw it better than say it lol <(graphic designer) i think in paragraphs rather than sentences and see everything in 3d messes up me trying to communicate all the time sorry

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its brake fluid lasts forever
That assertion is flat out wrong - brake fluid degrades over time due to a variety of reasons.

Even if that is not the root cause of your current brake issues, it should be changed on an annual basis.
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i suspect your bearings are the wheel bearings

as for could they being bad affect the brakes... yes, if the wheel wobbles at the hub the movement is transfered to the rotors which then push the pistons bad into the calipers and forcing you to have to pump them back up

if youre talking about the fork bushings... dunno, but my advice would be to take it to someone that knows forks up and down


as for your assumption that brake fluid lasts forever its does not... its a hydraulic fluid and like any hyd fluid it breaks down, it also absorbs moisture, once it turns dark youre already well past the point it should have been replaced at.

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That assertion is flat out wrong - brake fluid degrades over time due to a variety of reasons.

Even if that is not the root cause of your current brake issues, it should be changed on an annual basis.
yeah gonna change the brake fluid later on

i went from a rat bike to this one so some old habits die hard, beat the hell out of that thing to know the limits

this bike tho
its not fork bushings its just that i had the tire off to fix the forks then found the wheel bearings shredded.
forks are sweet now, took 4 hrs both forks

look how many diff ideas were generated great job guys, remembering more, leaning lots maybe it will help someone else too

can't wait to get the new wheel bearings to test the brakes
really believe its the bearings causing the wobble as mentioned above wish i could have worded it better lol
there still holding pressure off the caliper from last night good sign
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I think he is talking about bad wheel bearings. If that is the case, and they were really bad, yes they can cause the problem you're describing. As the wheel wobbles back and forth on the bad bearings the rotors will push the caliper pistons back in, causing the brakes to not work until you pump them enough to push the pistons back out.
thanks for the confirmation on that wobble possibly effecting the brakes, Ryan

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as for your assumption that brake fluid lasts forever its does not... its a hydraulic fluid and like any hyd fluid it breaks down, it also absorbs moisture, once it turns dark youre already well past the point it should have been replaced at.
hmm for kicks, even if the brake fluid degrades... will it really hurt the bike i remember other vehicles never changed that n were fine 100 thousand miles or more, less there was a leak...

pressure system, should be able to put water in there if wouldn't rust just need the pressure right? (rat bike thinking) i know it does more than pressure lol but im a put lemonade instead brake fluid maybe it will bleed a brake fluid long island lol J/K

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water wont work because of its exceptionally low boiling point, turn it to steam, steam is a gas and therefore compressable, adn whammo youve not got basically no brakes

and yes it will hurt the vehicle, the lines, M/c innternals and caliper internals will corrode, leading to several possibilities, locked up caliper, m/c that no longer makes pressure, leaks form the lines themselves, none are good obviously

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hmm for kicks, even if the brake fluid degrades... will it really hurt the bike i remember other vehicles never changed that n were fine 100 thousand miles or more, less there was a leak...

pressure system, should be able to put water in there if wouldn't rust just need the pressure right?
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from my 3d work learned there's always another angle to look at it from that's probably why the forks so easy i can visualize anything.

Actually seemed safer with the forks leaking not that they were leaking but, with the less pressure, get more air time on the front wheel. Its like pick it up n set it down in the next lane feeling they retracted slower. did 2000+ miles leaking at least, never effected the brake pads but felt like more control maybe need to change the stiffness, now with the forks fixed the bike felt weird more up on point again like before the leak. Noticed even tho the bearing problem.

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Pilotx1 water wont work because of its exceptionally low boiling point, turn it to steam, steam is a gas and therefore compressable, adn whammo youve not got basically no brakes

and yes it will hurt the vehicle, the lines, M/c innternals and caliper internals will corrode, leading to several possibilities, locked up caliper, m/c that no longer makes pressure, leaks form the lines themselves, none are good obviously
thats why i was gonna add lemonade the acid will help lmao ^^ j/k

now i wanna make steam brakes lol
wonder how much system would lose if re-condensed back to water again after use, refill every 100 miles? lol vv

i found a way to make perpetual energy with magnets. i mess with stuff like this all the time trying to find diff ways to build and the money for prototype got 800$ in magnets from china, i need to create a vacuum and injection molding for precision ;/ works so well i cant take it to anyone, already did patent search with botched plans just to see the rest of their ideas. nothing like it. to incorporate steam idea with it would give second energy source from single idea hmmmmmm. nvm

so this is helping on more than one front than the bike
more systems learn more options you have

but im gonna have to look into the ware part on the brakes from the water cause i'm out in the weather all the time n have white coating across the them from the rain, snow n salt. Maybe i can replace then coat the outside of the lines with something to help prevent before riding in those extremes. Did 9000miles this last winter 0* out lol maybe can wax them n leave it on worked for the body mostly. messy when spring hits lol

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Once again I got lost somewhere between the brakes, and bearings....
the bearings being shreaded angle the wheel just that little bit making it wobble, in turn keeps the brakes from keeping pressure. i dont understand the physics of it that well but i can visualize it n understand that it could push the pads back losing the pressure cause as the wheel turns to a different angle they dont have the caliper applying backforce on them anymore?

Ryan said it better than i could

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parts arrived
problem
bearing that shredded left just the outer ring so now that outer ring is up against another ring thats part of the wheel barely a lip between the 2 to apply pressure needed

do they have pullers for broken bearings where just the outer ring is left?
i've heated it up and tried to work around the edge, think just warring away the old bearing ring and i dont think it has moved

other one slide out fine got 2 new ones

need something that will go in and separate with a flathead of space to grab the lip like opposite of a wheel puller

so glad i'm doin this myself all in all spent 240$ in parts. in labor this would be like 600$ n thats before the problem of the broken bearing ring left inside the wheel prob be like 700-800$ cause of this minus parts^

thinking bend a flat head screw driver so can go in and hook the back side then come from the other side like the normal bearing with a socket extension to drive down at the bend of the screwdriver (maybe multiple screwdrivers 12oclock pattern or single n work around) sending the force latterly to the "left over bearring ring" the angle from the backside like 5* and getting more of a angled glance off it

idk maybe slide a bigger socket over the screwdrivers before bending out to give it a collar

reverse tongs be great right about now
not dinged up yet
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