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Trailer lights go off randomly...

So, I bought a trailer little over week ago. Everything has been peachy, than tonight, while working on it, i noticed all the lights would turn off at random intervals after connecting it to the truck. The time ranged from 4 seconds to almost 2 minutes. WTF? Any ideas?
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bad ground somewhere.
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bad ground somewhere....almost always
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I deleted Keggers post so I can give the correct answer -
bad ground somewhere....almost always
What did he write?

And that was my thought too, but it has multiple grounds throughout...

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Yes, and perhaps the plug....may look good on the outside, but the lugs will rust deep into the plug
Plus on the truck is fine. And I replaced the plug on the trailer the day I bought it.
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So, I bought a trailer little over week ago. Everything has been peachy, than tonight, while working on it, i noticed all the lights would turn off at random intervals after connecting it to the truck. The time ranged from 4 seconds to almost 2 minutes. WTF? Any ideas?
time has no bearing on a bad ground or connection.....it will be random

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Jay, just start at the front and trace the wires, anywhere you find a circular terminal connector screwed into the frame, check that it is tight and not corroded. As you are checking the wires, make sure there are no areas where the insulation has worn off of non-ground wires causing it to hit metal as this would cause the same problem, but more likely would be blowing fuses if that were the case.

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What did he write?

And that was my thought too, but it has multiple grounds throughout...



Plus on the truck is fine. And I replaced the plug on the trailer the day I bought it.
not the pigtail on the truck, but where it connects to the harness....

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bad ground somewhere

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I know the issue is with the trailer, as when I plus the plug tester to the truck, it doesn't have the same problem.

It's an enclosed 6x10, so following wires isn't so simple... I'm trying to resort from pulling the plywood to a last ditch effort... Thanks for the replies so far.
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I know the issue is with the trailer, as when I plus the plug tester to the truck, it doesn't have the same problem.

It's an enclosed 6x10, so following wires isn't so simple... I'm trying to resort from pulling the plywood to a last ditch effort... Thanks for the replies so far.
Pull the lights out one at a time, typically they are grounded back behind where the light hooks up and you should be able to find them. Some lights, like the fender markers ground through the mounting screws for the light, so make sure those are good too. If you find a stripped mounting screw use tinfoil around the screw and screw it back in for a quick fix.

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If ALL the running lights AND the turn/brake lights go on and off at the SAME time, then it's the ground from the trailer side of the plug to the trailer chassis.

If its ONE light, then look near that light.

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If ALL the running lights AND the turn/brake lights go on and off at the SAME time, then it's the ground from the trailer side of the plug to the trailer chassis.

If its ONE light, then look near that light.
Yes.

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Pretty sure I've found the problem. My trailer converter doesn't put out enough amps. Plugged the trailer into my neighbors truck with factory converter, and lights not only didn't turn off, but were hell of a lot brighter. Now to find an appropriate converter box locally...
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Pretty sure I've found the problem. My trailer converter doesn't put out enough amps. Plugged the trailer into my neighbors truck with factory converter, and lights not only didn't turn off, but were hell of a lot brighter. Now to find an appropriate converter box locally...
Check the ground on your converter. When I picked up my brothers flatbed, I had no lights on the trailer. They worked on my brothers truck though. Turned out the adapter plug went bad (ground wire corroded off in the adapters harness off teh plug).

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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Agreed--I had dim lights on my trailer for a while because I put the ground lead onto a bad bolt for it. Moving it to the factory grounding bolt made the lights much brighter.

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The ground on the truck was fine, that was the first thing I checked. And as I said earlier, on the trailer connector tester it worked flawlessly. I couldn't find a converter locally today, but was able to find 16 marker lights to replace the incandescent ones. It fixed the problem
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The ground on the truck was fine, that was the first thing I checked. And as I said earlier, on the trailer connector tester it worked flawlessly. I couldn't find a converter locally today, but was able to find 16 marker lights to replace the incandescent ones. It fixed the problem
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Farm and fleet in Montgomery?
Jay, you come out here to Farm and Fleet and I'll pick up the beer tab..

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Along the same lines, I have a tow package from the manufacture on my Durango. I haven't had any problems with lights as of yet. I have a 7 pin connector. My new trailer is a 6 pin so I use a converter.

1) does the ground go through the 6 pin and/or through the ball of the hitch?

2) do I need to add anything to a 7 pin in order to have trailer brakes (on a different 2 axle trailer - mine is a single).
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Along the same lines, I have a tow package from the manufacture on my Durango. I haven't had any problems with lights as of yet. I have a 7 pin connector. My new trailer is a 6 pin so I use a converter.

1) does the ground go through the 6 pin and/or through the ball of the hitch?

2) do I need to add anything to a 7 pin in order to have trailer brakes (on a different 2 axle trailer - mine is a single).
1)trailer ground is hooked to the tow vehicle's ground via teh connector.

2)Dont need to add anythign to the 7pin itself for brakes, but you will need a brake controller inside the truck (if not already equipped).

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Jay, you come out here to Farm and Fleet and I'll pick up the beer tab..
yeah, maybe if you pick up my beer tab for the next year
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