Turning the best lap at BHF? - Chicagoland Sportbikes
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View Poll Results: Fastest lap @ BHF?
MotoGP 12 23.53%
MotoGP 250 19 37.25%
World/British Superbike 5 9.80%
AMA Fast Guys 6 11.76%
Oddy (Ken) because he always tells me how fast he is. 7 13.73%
HDTony (ripping through B group) 2 3.92%
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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-08-2006, 09:59 AM Thread Starter
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Turning the best lap at BHF?

Hypothetically speaking, who would be most likely to turn the fastest lap @ BHF?

Why?

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Hard question. I guess the 250 guys, since they are used to carrying the most corner speed. The MotoGP guys are used to wider open tracks and high horsepower. BHF doesn't lend itself to HP since it is so tight.

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Don't the super karts hold the lap record there?

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Dunno... good question.

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I would think the Moto GP guys, they're the fastest motorcycle racers in the world, they would find a way to be the fastest there.

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Don't the super karts hold the lap record there?
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Don't the super karts hold the lap record there?
I've got a buddy who claims mid-15s at Blackhawk on a 125 shifter kart. And he's mid pack when he finishes (they tune them to such an extreme that they barely last the 1/2 hour race).

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Yes Karts and Cars do go faster around the track than bikes for sure. More rubber on the ground, more corner speed. But thats not the question the Big U-Dog is asking.

I think the Limmies are the nuttiest motorcycle racers in the world. Alot of the guys participate in the Isle of Man TT. There isn't a more technical, dangerous course in the world.

So I am saying the Brits. I work with a fellow who lives outside of Machester England. He said that if you go over there not knowing the course around the Isle of Man and come in last place but still qualify you are considered a fucking hero by all the fans. That is awesome, but a death wish at the same time.

Crazy fuckin Brits....

Go find the craziest looking Limmy you can, hog tie him and give him an IV with Guiness to keep him alive, bring him to Rockford, through him on the bike, he'll do the fastest lap at BHF.

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Thank goodness I found a way to waste my Friday...

Tough call for sure. I agree with the other thread in that the MotoGP guys might be the most talented - but trying to wrestle a 240hp monster around BHF might really affect their times.

250GP was my first choice for the same reasons Wink had. But local fast guys (even ones like Rev Rice) can't quite hang with the fast SS guys.

AMA/Local guys on ideal equipment would probably get within a second or two of the record regardless. Tough to put a value on local knowledge.

All the SBK guys might be nuts, and used to odd sketchy tracks, but I don't think they'd do much better than the AMA.

So yeah - I'm putting my money on Ken.

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Go find the craziest looking Limmy you can, hog tie him and give him an IV with Guiness to keep him alive, bring him to Rockford, through him on the bike, he'll do the fastest lap at BHF.
I thought the Brits prefer Newcastle? Anyways, you've still got a good point. The lack of runoff in some corners at Blackhawk wouldn't phase a Isle of Mann competitor.

Then again, the Brits aren't an option on the poll either

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Tough call for sure. I agree with the other thread in that the MotoGP guys might be the most talented - but trying to wrestle a 240hp monster around BHF might really affect their times.

250GP was my first choice for the same reasons Wink had. But local fast guys (even ones like Rev Rice) can't quite hang with the fast SS guys.

AMA/Local guys on ideal equipment would probably get within a second or two of the record regardless. Tough to put a value on local knowledge.

All the SBK guys might be nuts, and used to odd sketchy tracks, but I don't think they'd do much better than the AMA.

So yeah - I'm putting my money on Ken.
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I thought the Brits prefer Newcastle? Anyways, you've still got a good point. The lack of runoff in some corners at Blackhawk wouldn't phase a Isle of Mann competitor.

Then again, the Brits aren't an option on the poll either

Yes they are, it says rite up there, Brit Superbike.

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I think the AMA Superbike Guys......


They have had to ride all the lame-ass dual sport "ractracks" we have
in the US..... they are used to diversity and um.... "challenging" conditions.

They also *must* have the ability to ignore walls and tires and trees.....


You would never get an FIM rider to turn a lap there.....

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Tough call for sure. I agree with the other thread in that the MotoGP guys might be the most talented - but trying to wrestle a 240hp monster around BHF might really affect their times.

oh, on their current race platforms you mean....you didn't say that..

at any rate, the Brit and Irish street racers would turn the best times, they're crazy enough to do that with all the trees and Armco at Blackhawk.

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And I thought they usally said...... "what's that odd smell" ????

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Should have had TT RIders on the poll ...... now those fu89ers are nuts !


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oh, on their current race platforms you mean....you didn't say that..

at any rate, the Brit and Irish street racers would turn the best times, they're crazy enough to do that with all the trees and Armco at Blackhawk.
Sorry - I meant on their current rides. I'm not trying to decide who the best riders are (we already know Ken thinks he is ). I'm trying to figure out which racing format would have the best shot at a quick lap at a hinkey track like BHF.


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Can I change my vote, HDTONY option wasnt there when I voted!

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Well, I went with SBK for the fact that those cats came up riding some shitball tracks before they made it to the big show - Just as AMA did - I tend to sway more towards SBK due to the fact that it is just a way of life over there and not a "sport that hurts people" - Those guys are friggin balls to the walls all day everyday because it is what they know and ALL they know - I am sure there are a few in AMA as well but I gotta go with the Brits

Ever see some of the tracks those cats race in the shitball circuts??? - They make BHF look like Muegello

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I voted for th Moto gp guys. With bikes like the GP's and the talent they have they will find a way to be the fastest without a doubt. Llook at teh British wild card guys that ride in the GP they don't place a high as the front pack guys but they do very well in there own series. Hands down Moto GP guys.
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250 GP would be my guess. Assuming they would ride the track they've got the best shot at it with machines best suited for the task at hand.

Maybe throw Pedrosa back on a 250 and turn him loose
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