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View Poll Results: What would you do if a registered sex offender worked in your office?
Quit your job, Safety is number 1, once an offender always an offender 5 13.51%
Ignore it assuming nothing will happen 12 32.43%
Although you have spoken to management don't worry about it 20 54.05%
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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 11-16-2006, 06:36 PM Thread Starter
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What would you do?

If someone at your work creeped you out enough and you did a search on them and they came up a registered sex offender?

I have a friend who's girlfriend this happened to, and I said quit if the company is not going to do anything about it as she has spoken to managment about it.

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Depends on the offense. He might be a sick bastard but why lose your job if your not the victim of choice. I can't see why they wouldn't do something though.

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I wouldn't quit, but I'm not a woman, so it would be difficult for me to be credible for this one. I would keep a close eye and distance away from that person. Unless it were a close contact job, I wouldn't see a big problem with it.

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Offense happen over 10 years ago. Sexual contact with a FAMILY member who is 8 years old......SICK when this person would have been in their 20's
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i think the better question here is which is not on your poll to make sure 1 you have the correct info. 2 to take it to management and you want to know if THEY KNEW IT then when they hired him/her?

and now that they know what do they plan to do, keep that person or warn all employees of the company that he is, and that will turn enough hassle towards that sex offender to quite or get the fuck out of there before some BAD shit all of a sudden starts happening.

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i think the better question here is which is not on your poll to make sure 1 you have the correct info. 2 to take it to management and you want to know if THEY KNEW IT then when they hired him/her?

and now that they know what do they plan to do, keep that person or warn all employees of the company that he is, and that will turn enough hassle towards that sex offender to quite or get the fuck out of there before some BAD shit all of a sudden starts happening.

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Info is correct and already taken it to management
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good, 10 years or not, if the fucker got convicted it must have been bad enough of a sexual offense!



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While this perticular issue may turn out to have a child molester, let me throw this out there. When I was 22, I fucked a girl who said she was 19, needless to say, she ended up being MUCH younger than that. I would have been in some serious shit if this had ended differently and I could be on that list now. I'm not a pervert and I didn't rape anyone, she lied and I was horny, it sucks, but should that be reason enough for someone to be afraid of me for the rest of my life and should it be something to haunt you forever?

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There is the chance that they did something stupid, payed their debt
to society and are now reformed. I would say let it be......

If OTOH thisperson made INAPPROPRIATE sexual advances toward
someone in the workplace.... that is another issue altogether.


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F'in family members is sick. If you take it to management, can they fire the person assuming that is the only offense? In today's sue-happy world, that might not be an option.

What makes the person 'creepy'? Constant, unwanted attention should be brought to her manager. Physical advances NEED to be brought to the manager. Otherwise, he'll just keep doing that to all the other women he works with.

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There is the chance that they did something stupid, payed their debt
to society and are now reformed. I would say let it be......

If OTOH thisperson made INAPPROPRIATE sexual advances toward
someone in the workplace.... that is another issue altogether.


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Everyone needs at least a second chance. Nowday you can be registered as a sex offender for stupid shit nowday's. Heck a kindergarden kid was charged not long ago for touching another person.

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If someone is bothered by it they can always choose to leave.

As stated already, if they 'paid their debt' for the crime and are operating within the law now then the person with the problem today is the one who's creeped out about it. For that, go back to the first sentence in this post.

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While this perticular issue may turn out to have a child molester, let me throw this out there. When I was 22, I fucked a girl who said she was 19, needless to say, she ended up being MUCH younger than that. I would have been in some serious shit if this had ended differently and I could be on that list now. I'm not a pervert and I didn't rape anyone, she lied and I was horny, it sucks, but should that be reason enough for someone to be afraid of me for the rest of my life and should it be something to haunt you forever?

even if you were busted for it, easily over looked/understandable.

you being 20 fucking a 8 year old? ahh no i would probably beat the shit out of you if i knew it.



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F'in family members is sick. If you take it to management, can they fire the person assuming that is the only offense? In today's sue-happy world, that might not be an option.

What makes the person 'creepy'? Constant, unwanted attention should be brought to her manager. Physical advances NEED to be brought to the manager. Otherwise, he'll just keep doing that to all the other women he works with.

I'd probably live with it, but keep kids away.

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if they lied on there application they can if there was a spot if they have ever been convicted of an offense, and if so please explain.



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There is the chance that they did something stupid, payed their debt
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They cannot be reformed and that has been proven. Look at all the sickos who rape women, the go to jail and when they are free they do it again.
The sex offence stuff is getting out of hand, but you rape an 8 yr old thats just sick and should have a bullet to the head! Now a 16 yr old lying, that is bullshit and it's sad we need to ID people now.

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They cannot be reformed and that has been proven. Look at all the sickos who rape women, the go to jail and when they are free they do it again.
The sex offence stuff is getting out of hand, but you rape an 8 yr old thats just sick and should have a bullet to the head! Now a 16 yr old lying, that is bullshit and it's sad we need to ID people now.
There are those in society that are also wrongfully accused and convicted and are stuck with that label for life. Small chance but it happens.

Is their current behavior causing a problem in the workplace and did they lie about it on the application? That's what it really boils down to today.

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While this perticular issue may turn out to have a child molester, let me throw this out there. When I was 22, I fucked a girl who said she was 19, needless to say, she ended up being MUCH younger than that. I would have been in some serious shit if this had ended differently and I could be on that list now. I'm not a pervert and I didn't rape anyone, she lied and I was horny, it sucks, but should that be reason enough for someone to be afraid of me for the rest of my life and should it be something to haunt you forever?
Same shit happened to me, my friends met her at a bar though, you would think she would have been at least 18.

My buddy lives a couple doors down from a guy on the sex offender list. Young regular looking guy, maybe 30 years old. It bothered my friend enough that he actually talked to him about it. Turns out that all the guy did was bang a girl that was underage when he was 19. Bitter parents of the girl took it farther than it needed to go. Guy is scared for life because of it.

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I would keep the job assuming there's no disturbing behavior from that person. If some shit happens, management has to be notified immediately, preferably in writing (email) to leave the trail.

Otherwise, if the guy is not out of line, I would assume the good will. Like it is said here before, he could be wrongfully accused or reformed. Unlikely, but still.

Also, I think he would be somehow forced to leave soon. Even if the management knew about it before, when people learn about that kind of shit, it creates tension in a team. Bad, and any reasonable manager will try to remove it or at least talk to the guy and try to clear the issue somehow.

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The past is the past here..........


There are two things that could change his employment status......

If he was convicted and omitted it from his application he can be terminated for cause.


If he is activly harrasing employee's currently ( not just making you feel squirmy because of his past ) you can file a complaint with HR / Management about the current incidents. Use the term "Hostile Work Environment".


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While this perticular issue may turn out to have a child molester, let me throw this out there. When I was 22, I fucked a girl who said she was 19, needless to say, she ended up being MUCH younger than that. I would have been in some serious shit if this had ended differently and I could be on that list now. I'm not a pervert and I didn't rape anyone, she lied and I was horny, it sucks, but should that be reason enough for someone to be afraid of me for the rest of my life and should it be something to haunt you forever?
Been there....done that....giggidy

Show management and let them deal with it. Its not up to you. Who knows, the guy could be "reformed", just don't pass judgement unless ye be judged. Or something like that shit.

Edit: Who are you to say someone can't be reformed? If they truely feel they were in error and want to fix their life, I say good for them, let them. I'm not saying what he did was forgiveable, but it was 10 years ago and he could be leading a normal life now.

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Show management and let them deal with it. Its not up to you. Who knows, the guy could be "reformed", just don't pass judgement unless ye be judged. Or something like that shit.
Child molesters can not be reformed, this has been proven over and over and giving the benefit of the doubt will not work here because the girl was FLIPPIN 8 years old, you could maybe mistake her age and guess that she was 9. Doubt she could have ‘lied’ her way into the guy’s pants, if she was 15, 16 and lied that’s a different story but not the case in this instance. I’d do everything possible (without getting fired) to make sure this waste of space quits, I don’t want this piece of shit breathing my air.

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Child molesters can not be reformed, this has been proven over and over and giving the benefit of the doubt will not work here because the girl was FLIPPIN 8 years old, you could maybe mistake her age and guess that she was 9. Doubt she could have ‘lied’ her way into the guy’s pants, if she was 15, 16 and lied that’s a different story but not the case in this instance. I’d do everything possible (without getting fired) to make sure this waste of space quits, I don’t want this piece of shit breathing my air.
All you can do is inform management. If you become aggressive in the workplace, he might make complaints against you. Wouldn't that be funny, if the child molester gets you fired!!! Just leave him alone, avoid him and move on.

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Child molesters can not be reformed, this has been proven over and over and giving the benefit of the doubt will not work here because the girl was FLIPPIN 8 years old, you could maybe mistake her age and guess that she was 9. Doubt she could have ‘lied’ her way into the guy’s pants, if she was 15, 16 and lied that’s a different story but not the case in this instance. I’d do everything possible (without getting fired) to make sure this waste of space quits, I don’t want this piece of shit breathing my air.
Let's assume you are correct in that there is no 'reform' or more like alcoholics... 'One Day at a Time'....

Is he working around kids? If yes.. Problem.

If No, not a problem that involves work.

Take the personal thirst for revenge out of the workplace because the legal system already dealt with it.

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in illinois you do not have to answer that question of previous conviction.

and fyi, to those who say give em a 2nd chance-there is a very high repeat rate in sex offenders somewhere in the 90%'s which is why the sex offender list was made and legal in the first place

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Where's the poll option for "mind your own fucking business and get back to work"?

Unless the person in question is acting inappropriately (which was not stated), I think the whole thing is stupid. Being creepy isn't a crime. If it was most of this board would be locked up by now.

Jimbo & K2 - Please cite your list of studies that prove your stance on rehabiliation specific to child molestors.

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...........I’d do everything possible (without getting fired) to make sure this waste of space quits, I don’t want this piece of shit breathing my air.
But THIS was my favorite part.

K2: Please tell me which post says that this case involved a guy and a girl. Then show me the post that says "he" had sex with "her" or who was in whose pants etc. Perhaps I'm stupid, but I didn't see any of those details in this thread.

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Just tell all your co-workers about it, they will alienate him and he will eventually quit.

In the meantime, be his only friend at work, in confidence, he will tell you where all the good internet pron is before he departs.

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and fyi, to those who say give em a 2nd chance-there is a very high repeat rate in sex offenders somewhere in the 90%'s which is why the sex offender list was made and legal in the first place
I was going to put in my 2 cents about all of this but appears that most of everything has been covered. However, I think the biggest problem is the detail of the conviction. The list doesn't go into very much detail, only what the conviction was. I think the date of the conviction and some small details (no names, perhaps ages), would be very beneficial.
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Boy wouldn't it be a slap in the face to be sued by him and he wins for defamation of character, libel and slander.

The legal system already dealt with him and he's now in compliance w/ the laws from what I gathered by the original post.

The rest of it you're opening yourselves up for a civil action on his part especially if you interfere w/ his ability to make a wage when there was no legal justification for you as a fellow employee to do such a thing.

You could also wind up getting fired for harassing a fellow employee. Wouldn't that be ironic.

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I was going to put in my 2 cents about all of this but appears that most of everything has been covered. However, I think the biggest problem is the detail of the conviction. The list doesn't go into very much detail, only what the conviction was. I think the date of the conviction and some small details (no names, perhaps ages), would be very beneficial.

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