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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 10-11-2007, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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Oil changes.....

Just curious how many of you do your own oil changes and what kind of oil filters you use?

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When Autozone carried the STP filters for my bike I just used those - otherwise it's OEM.

I remember seeing a website where dozens of filters were taken apart and the Fram looked like a POS. I stay away from those entirely for bike and car.
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K & N or OEM
+1 and I only use Amsoil oil in all of my rides.




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MCC reccomends K&N, so I use those.
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On the old bike, I used fram (ch6012 I believe). On the new one, for now i'm using kawi brand filters. 30K miles later I'll prob switch to something else.
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Fram is the worst ever. i have seen a couple of blown motors due to the failure of a fram filter.

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MCC reccomends K&N, so I use those.

Yeah ...they screwed me on that one. The K n N they installed had a base that was larger that the space allotted. It took me hours and needed to destroy it to get it off ...grrr!

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Fram is the worst ever. i have seen a couple of blown motors due to the failure of a fram filter.
that sucks..how does that happen? the seal i'm assuming?

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I've never had a fram filter fail, in the car or bike. In the bike, it was the element type filter, not spin on. I always tried to get the ones made in canada, not korea..
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Yeah ...they screwed me on that one. The K n N they installed had a base that was larger that the space allotted. It took me hours and needed to destroy it to get it off ...grrr!

OEM FTW!!
Great, wonder how much of a bitch it will be to get the one off the 955i. I did the oil change, and it slipped on just fine, hope it comes off just as easy.
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Use to run Honda OEM, until the last two I bought, after removing the plastic wrap, had alot of metal burrs and smut all over the face including the seal - likely from not cleaning up after the thread tap and leftover dirty tapping oil. Said fuck that and would never pay premium buck for their OEM again until they got their quality up.

Last few years went back to Fram a few times- from what since its seems, looks like the cardboard-looking retainer is gone and replaced with steel to keep the filter from sporadically collapsing. Also looks like they run a flush to either capture and/or remove the tapping burrs - since the face have seemed to be lack of metal burrs & with clean oil on the surface. Figured I give it a try since maybe they got their shit together from previous bad press.

I dont exactly give a nod to Fram and still heed caution since I did have a seal on a spin-on trans filter fail several years back. Seal had become dry rot and cracked - could be my fault mostly since it was a well over extended change interval of near 70k miles.

Anyhow, thats my experience. Use what you want and dont take he said - she said without observing for yourself as well.
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I have only used OEM or Flo-Filter.

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I love a good oil filter thread as much as I like a good oil thread

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Mobil 1 M1-110 and Amsoil

Same thing for the car, Mobil 1 filter and Amsoil 5w30.
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I love a good oil filter thread as much as I like a good oil thread
Are Canadian filters packed with snow or what?
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+1 and I only use Amsoil oil in all of my rides.
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First time in my life I haven't used FRAM......right now I'm using Ducati branded filters....mainly because I can't find a local source for the FRAM filter for the ducs. 38 years of doing oil changes...I have always used FRAM. Oil...I'm a HUGE fan of Rotella....both dino and the synthetic...I used it to break in the engines on all 3 ducs....the ST3 now has just shy of 30K miles on it....doesn't burn a drop. So until someone does a "very scientific" study with the same oil, same filter, same engine, same operator, in the exact same operating environments...I'll stick with what works...and pay little attention to all the "internet organic scientists" with Phyds from MIT and Harvard

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More food for thought

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Controversy

There are several controversies surrounding Fram products; more specifically their oil filters.

* The Internet website entitled Engine Oil Filter Study [1] had made a "claim" where Fram once manufactured its own oil filters where the owner of a Mopar Chrysler K platform made an undocumented claim that the filter disintegrated. Fram clones (manufactured by Pennzoil and Quaker State) would have been affected since these filters came from the same assembly line. These accusations have been proven false. [citation needed]
* There has also been some controversy about Frams use of average to below average oil filter medias and cardboard end caps which when compared to competitors of the same price range, may seem very lack luster despite working well enough to meet OEM Specifications.

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This taken directly from The Engine Oil Filter Study...that for some odd reason people are taking as the definitive study on oil filter

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These pages are NOT to be taken as gospel. The primary motivation behind this study was to provide information about what oil filter brands are made by which manufacturers. The secondary motivation was to uncover some of the obvious internal construction issues of these manufacturers. This "study" is not a "test". The SAE J806 and J1858 tests were designed to test the filtration capability of these filters, but unfortunately they have several short comings. These include issues such as anti-drain-back valve functionality (valve train noise, etc.), filter element containment capability (how long before it blocks and bypasses--related to surface area), and many testimonials that appear to point in the direction of certain manufacturers. It has been my hope to shed some light in the direction of these issues. While my perhaps unpopular "two eyes and common sense" approach may not be the most scientific, it is the best I could do considering there was little personal return on the investment of time and money I put into it.

The primary shortcoming of this study is the small sampling size. I only tested the Ford 5.0L filter. Some brand names use different manufacturers for different applications. Another shortcoming is the lack of testing of the filter element media itself. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor resources to do this.
and further looking

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Who are you and what are your qualifications?

Quite frankly, I am just a concerned automotive enthusiast that is tired of being toyed with by these manufacturers. In reality, I am an Electrical Engineer with no qualifications in the area of filtration analysis. However, I have eyes and some common sense, which has proven to be enough to accomplish what I set out to do.

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I use K&N filters just for the nut on the bottom...just makes it easier to get it on and off right.
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