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'08 Triumph Street Triple 20 39.22%
'06-'08 CBR600RR converted to a Cafe Racer (a la' VCook's GSXR_ 4 7.84%
'06-'08 GSXR600 converted to a Cafe Racer (a la' VCook's GSXR) 2 3.92%
'06-08' GSXR750 converted to a Cafe Racer (a la' VCook's GSXR) 10 19.61%
'08 Benelli TnT 1100 (feel free to write donations, you'll get a ride, I promise) 6 11.76%
Any other, please list 9 17.65%
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I've been working on this Cafe Racer project all winter and I love the bike but it's just not a practical all season bike given it's age and power output. That taken into consideration as well as the fact that I've just accepted a new job (and a good amount more money), I'm going to be picking up another bike, so I want CLSB's opinion on the matter. Please weigh in with any opinion or experience you have.

I'll preface the poll a bit with my history of motorcycles, my first real motorcycle experience was on a GS500e, it was a good start but a lot sluggish.

My second bike was an FJ1200, it was a rocketship but I hated it due to it's weight as well as the sloppy (by today's standards) chassis and brakes.

I then bought a 2002 Triumph Speed Four that I never should have sold, I loved it, it was fast enough for me and did everything I wanted it to.

After the S4, I bought a 2004 Triumph Daytona 955i, had nothing but problems with it and it really didn't fit me. Too fast, crazy expensive insurance, heavy by comparison, electrical issues, etc.

That's my background, I want a middle weight bike. That being said, I also want a bike that I can ride all season and not worry about maintaining it(aside from basic stuff) while having a good time doing so.

Speed is not a priority, I want something light, fast, agile and easy to ride. The lighter and slower the better.

Lame topic, I know, but let me know.

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Buy a Busa... Bullitproof... but of the 955 was too fast, you might wanna pass.

Better yet... Buy a Duc. 848!

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Buy a Busa... Bullitproof... but of the 955 was too fast, you might wanna pass.

Better yet... Buy a Duc. 848!
Pretty sure the FJ1200 was faster than the 955i, I don't need crazy fast or huge amounts of torque. I'm not a reckless rider but I know my limits and what makes me happy, 100 (+/- 10) horsepower and 50 lb./ft. of torque on a modern bike is enough for me, I'd rather have something lighter and with less power than heavier with boatloads of horse juice.

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Here's my thoughts on this.

$8,000 for the bike, $400 for setup, $600 in taxes, $9k out the door.

2007/8 CBR 600RR with 3k miles on her= $6,500 for the bike, sell the fairings for $700, get new steel brake lines, new triple tree and re-route tubing for a total of $700. Pay taxes on that bike (used and private party= $25) and be out the door for $3k less than the Triumph and have the reliability of a Honda.... again, thoughts and opinions appreciated.

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Duc 848 or speed trip is the way to go.
Speed Triple is more or less the same as the 955i, old and sluggish. Ask Chills when he races a guy in a 911 in his Boxster S, there's a reason they detuned that engine, newer tech FTW. If anything, the Street Triple would win me over as I've owned and loved it's younger cousin.

As for the 848, not a terrible bike but should I go the Ducati route, you're damn right I'll go the direction that you, Dave13 and Moparboyy went, 916/996/998 is a much more alluring bike.

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Here's my thoughts on this.

$8,000 for the bike, $400 for setup, $600 in taxes, $9k out the door.

2007/8 CBR 600RR with 3k miles on her= $6,500 for the bike, sell the fairings for $700, get new steel brake lines, new triple tree and re-route tubing for a total of $700. Pay taxes on that bike (used and private party= $25) and be out the door for $3k less than the Triumph and have the reliability of a Honda.... again, thoughts and opinions appreciated.
the speed triple is setup up that way out of the box. All of the wires nicely hidden, the exposed frame done in a way that makes it attractive when it's exposed.

modern sportbikes usually look like a mess when you just take off the plastics. You need to hide everything to make it look good. I have a feeling that doing it right would take more time and money then you have alloted. But it would be a cool project when it was finished. Something unique, and while the money might not work out on your behalf the fact that it's likely to be something that looks as good as it will because you did it, might make it that much cooler.

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How much more money will you be making at your new job? Buy 4 more bikes, one of each of the ones you are considering. This way you will never have to obsess about what new bike to buy ever again because you will then spend all your time just trying to keep them all running at once. But don't even think about that Benelli.. Seriously, you ever ride a 2 valve Duc? I think if I were looking for another street bike, it'd be a HyperMotard. Big bags o' fun, and you can spend all kinds of money making it even lighter and righter.

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dont do anything less than a 750. you going with mx bars or you going to retain the clipons for more of the cafe racer style?

and clearwater, it's not that hard to do it right but it does depend on the bike. I've hidden the snake of wires and cables on my bike and it's cleaner and neater that most oem naked bikes. However some bikes have a real cluster under the fairings and this must be factored in when deciding.

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First of all - Vcook may shit himself when he finds out you called his bike a Cafe Racer.

Second of all - The 600RR will be faster than you want. By a LOT. Not to mention shitty ergos for an all-around streetbike until you put on the dirtbike bars - which defeats the whole "cafe racer" vibe.

Third of all - if you're not the prime candidate for an SV I don't know who is.

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the street triple is an awesome bike and all the pita things about the s4 are nothing but a memory. Triumph hit the marks with that bike. Resale is better than hacking up a good bike.

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to be fair underdog is right, you're describing a naked sv. I'd get bored with the power on one of those long term but would be a hoot around town.

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I like the triple but you have to admit that Bking is kind of cool I think prices are comparable or buy Rob's KTM because that is also badass.

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I was considering the HyperMotard but I want to wait for a review or two and at least the second model year before I drop that kind of change.

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the speed triple is setup up that way out of the box. All of the wires nicely hidden, the exposed frame done in a way that makes it attractive when it's exposed.
Actually it really isn't. My big issue with the Street Triple is the suspension, it's garbage. The Speed Four had a fully adjustable front and rear, the Street Triple has preload only on the rear and I think that's it. That being the case, I'd be inclined to swap the forks/shock out with those from a Daytona 675 which means I'll be working on the bike no matter which directions I go.

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Second of all - The 600RR will be faster than you want. By a LOT. Not to mention shitty ergos for an all-around streetbike until you put on the dirtbike bars - which defeats the whole "cafe racer" vibe.

Third of all - if you're not the prime candidate for an SV I don't know who is.

If the 650 doesn't blow your hair back, look for a naked SV1000. Short of all that - get an FZ6. Done and done.
I am not opposed to a fast bike, so long as it is controllable and is light and stops well. I think the 600RR would be fine in terms of power, I wouldn't want any more but I wouldn't want much less. This brings me to the SV650, I think they're nice bikes, but again, crap suspension and a wee bit underpowered for me given my size of 6'2" 230lbs. The SV1k is a solid choice but I've heard they're heavy feeling.





This does come down to an emotional choice, I was mostly just curious about between GSXRs and CBR, which one you all thought would make the best candidate for VCooking it?

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from a plumbing standpoint I know the gixxers are "prettier" underneith the bodywork than the honda RR series.

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Actually it really isn't. My big issue with the Street Triple is the suspension, it's garbage. The Speed Four had a fully adjustable front and rear, the Street Triple has preload only on the rear and I think that's it. That being the case, I'd be inclined to swap the forks/shock out with those from a Daytona 675 which means I'll be working on the bike no matter which directions I go.


blah! My FZ6 had non adjustable bargian basement suspension and I would always run at the tail end of the fast guys with no problem. In an average group of 10 CLSB folks. I'd run #4 with no problem.

(I'm talking about back roads street riding here, not track BTW)

I wouldn't let non adjustable suspension scare you away. Especially if you say that all out performance is not your #1 priority.

SV650, SV1000, DRZ400, Speed Triple, Street Triple, FZ6, Z1000, Z750....take your pick.

If you want something low maintainance, don't mess with the origional package. A lot of short asian engineeres put a lot of work into getting them right. Messing with them just makes it a project bike no matter what you do it and it won't be headache free

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This brings me to the SV650, I think they're nice bikes, but again, crap suspension and a wee bit underpowered for me given my size of 6'2" 230lbs. The SV1k is a solid choice but I've heard they're heavy feeling.
At the time this was taken I was 6'4" 210lbs. Looking back, it didn't seem all that "underpowered". To each their own I suppose. As for the springs, a quick search of the WERA board would get you into a nicely modified SV for < $5K.


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I'll have to give that SV650 another look I guess. One last thing I'm looking for that I'll probably get some shit about, I love to wheelie, Love it. I do want something that'll loft the front end with ease, another reason why the Street Triple and SV650 are looking better.

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