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Dunlop Qualifiers or Pilot Powers??

EDIT: didn't think to add it until I happened across them...How about Pilot Road 2 tires for street use?? dual compound for longer tread life while riding on the middle of the tire

Looking at getting new tyres for the bike, which do you prefer? Any comments on either are welcome.

Looks like qualifiers end up being a $30 cheaper for a set, but not sure which is better for street riding/"spirited" runs through twisties. Probably wont get to any track days on the life of these ones however.


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qualifiers are fine for a modest street rider

for someone that rides more aggressively, the pp are good. One thing though, this is like apples to oranges.
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I guess the points I'm looking to compare...

difference in time it takes to get them warm? (i'd like something that'll warm up a little quicker for street use, since i'll be riding while it's chilly as well as warm days)
Longevity between the 2?
which you feel more comfortable riding to the edge of the tire, and how traction differs?

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damn, now I see pilot road 2's....guess they offer more treadlife with the dual compound idea...wonder if they're better for street than PPs?

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GENERALLY spekaing, more treadlife = a harder compound meaning less traction

I have no idea what your riding style is. If it helps you decide, I slid around on the qualifier's when they were still fresh with plenty of meat on them. Just not the tire for me. I would consider my style aggressive.
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GENERALLY spekaing, more treadlife = a harder compound meaning less traction
def. true...

I'll probably end up ordering some pilot powers most likely..

although, those pilot road 2's seem like they might be nice, considering i'm planning on doing a lot of interstate riding to other riding destinations, it'll help keep the center from squaring out on me and the sides will be grippier for when I hit the twisties..

decisions decisions.

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There's few of us that run pr2's, self included. The other guy runs them on a late (?) model hybusa and is quite happy with their performance. Andy, you around?

For the c14, they're the best tire around without a doubt. Good handling until the very end. ~7-10Kmi/set
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There's few of us that run pr2's, self included. The other guy runs them on a late (?) model hybusa and is quite happy with their performance. Andy, you around?

For the c14, they're the best tire around without a doubt. Good handling until the very end. ~7-10Kmi/set

i'm assuming they do a nice job on long trips keeping your tires from getting to "square"?

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Any tire will wear most where you ride on it most. However, of the ones tried, the center seems to last the longest on these.

Define long trip? 5-6K miles?

Btw, no need to quote if responding to a post directly above!

Edit: What bike are these going on? Are you really aggressive on it?
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btw, ronayers sucks! they make everything look nice by having a lower price, but with tires and 3 small parts for the clutch cover shipping is 57...whereas motorcycle-superstore is only $29 more for the set, they have free shipping...not to mention ronayers takes 5-10 business days before they send it to ship, yuck.

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def. true...

I'll probably end up ordering some pilot powers most likely..

although, those pilot road 2's seem like they might be nice, considering i'm planning on doing a lot of interstate riding to other riding destinations, it'll help keep the center from squaring out on me and the sides will be grippier for when I hit the twisties..

decisions decisions.
The PR2's seem to be well suited for that. Superspud was running a Pilot road 2 rear on his SV1000 last season and he was more than able to rail on the Isle of Cheese TT run.

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I guess your right gpz, just used to hitting that 'quote' button lol...makes it easier sometimes to tell who you're talking to.

i'll be doing a LOT of just driving to/from places on normal roads, and i'll be taking a trip to tennessee at least once (900 miles each way), and might end up doing something towards the texas or colorado area. I'll be hitting whatever twisties I can find fairly often, but on the street i'm not going to be at balls to the wall speed, so I doubt i'd have to worry about the grip in that case.

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Rob...isle of cheese=wisconsin abc route?

still havent gotten to try that!

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Here's some pics... http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/h...r2_new_vs_old/ These are from the first swap last season just before the august F4T. These tires had about 10K on them. No pics of the second set. Unfortunately, the 2nd set was worn more than these by 7300mi.
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Rob...isle of cheese=wisconsin abc route?

still havent gotten to try that!
Yep. Under normal circumstances its an abc run. When G2Gs goofy ass is leading, its the the Isle of Cheese TT.

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If you're considering the pr2's, other tires in the class include:

1) Dunlop roadsmart
2) Metzler Z6
3) Pirelli diablo strada
4) Bridgestone BT021 (garbage)

The first 3 are in no particular order, but i've had good experience with the diablo strada's on the last bike too. The roadsmarts are probably the cheapest.
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looks like diablo stradas are less than the roadsmart..

I might just grab those strada's, since right now money counts, i'll probably test the waters with the strada, then when I have more cash flow (meaning, job lol) i'll try out those pr2's when the stradas wear out..

feel any difference on traction cornering between those two?

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you may want to look at the Bridgestone BT002 or BT016 if you're thinking about either of the above tires.

and the price is right too. slightly more than the Q's and slightly less than the PPs

FWIW, $261 for a 120/70, and a 190/55 (BT002) Just put them on my bike after reading lots of good about them.
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damn, not a bad price on those bridgestones...quite a bit cheaper for those bt016's than any i've looked at yet..seem like they have good ratings (a tad lower on the wet traction and life than others though) although, i'm not too worried about wet traction as in the rain I take it slooow and easy on corners and the throttle.

and, they have the 2 compounds in 'em too

~$75 less for a set than michelin pr2's, and $28 cheaper and diablo stradas

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BT016 is actually 3 compound rear and 2 compound front.
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BT016 is actually 3 compound rear and 2 compound front.
oh how sweet. lol

looks like i've changed the shopping cart again to those, thanks for the input so far!

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awesome, between the amount saved on the tire decision (first set i decided on were close to 330 for the set, not including the 57 shipping), and keeping the bike "stock-ish" and not having to buy the speedometer, I've saved enough to pay for that mirror, and most of a new helmet to boot! Old one is a crappy hjc i think that's quite beat up

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you also may want to check with Chicago Performance, i know he posted some good prices on the Q's. We have them for like $112 front and $133 rear (120/70-180/55) or something close to that price.
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you also may want to check with Chicago Performance, i know he posted some good prices on the Q's. We have them for like $112 front and $133 rear (120/70-180/55) or something close to that price.
hmm...i'll ask him on that..

he might be a bit far from here to get my sister to drive me though

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hmm...i'll ask him on that..

he might be a bit far from here to get my sister to drive me though
I'll be happy to drive her over there..

seriously ask him about shipping too.
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