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Book Smarts vs Street Smarts

Which of the two is more likely to be successful in life and why?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

Is the guy who started working right out of highschool more prepared to deal with the real world than say, the guy who went to college for 5 to 6 years?

Are college degrees overrated?

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From your title, we know which one you are. LOL And you seem to be doing alright, so I choose street smart.

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Which of the two is more likely to be successful in life and why?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

Is the guy who started working right out of highschool more prepared to deal with the real world than say, the guy who went to college for 5 to 6 years?

Are college degrees overrated?

Discuss.
This does not have to be an either/or as the combination of both will take you further than just one. Work (a real job) while in college

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From your title, we know which one you are. LOL And you seem to be doing alright, so I choose street smart.


I meant "Book" not "Books".

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I began working right after high school. I decided I wasn't doing what I wanted to, and decided to go to college. Unfortunately I didn't finish. I am now making decent money doing something that I enjoy doing.

My buddy went to college right after high school, graduated with his masters, and is now shoveling snow.

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just remember that you won't even get a interview for certain positions without a college degree.

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I think it depends on what job your doing. If you are scientist, computer programmer (no offense Arch ), or similar, where you don't interact that much with people outside of your lab or computer screen, then I think it's better to be book smart. But if you're in a job where you interact with many different people, then I think it's better to be street smart. Obviously a little of both would be ideal.

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I would like to add a serious comment. As a Fire Controlman/ Electronics technician at Great Lakes, we historically get the second highest asvab scorer's, (second to nuclear). There are a LOT of seriously smart kids who come through this school. And I have seen some of the brightest, and some of the most dumb people you can imagine. But to be honest, I would rather have a hardworking person with some common sense working for me. Smarts doesn't always matter, good training can take care of a lack of knowledge.

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just remember that you won't even get a interview for certain positions without a college degree.
This is painfully true as I know this personnally. I don't have a degree and even though I am qualified for a certain job, they won't even consider me because of it. There are so many people unemployed now, that when a company is looking at 100 resume's, they have to narrow it down some way so the first thing they do is get rid of the ones that don't have a degree.

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But to be honest, I would rather have a hardworking person with some common sense working for me. Smarts doesn't always matter, good training can take care of a lack of knowledge.
Are you hiring?? These are the type of companies that I need to find.

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I would like to add a serious comment. As a Fire Controlman/ Electronics technician at Great Lakes, we historically get the second highest asvab scorer's, (second to nuclear). There are a LOT of seriously smart kids who come through this school. And I have seen some of the brightest, and some of the most dumb people you can imagine. But to be honest, I would rather have a hardworking person with some common sense working for me. Smarts doesn't always matter, good training can take care of a lack of knowledge.
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I see a lot of parallels in this type of discussion to the ideas that "money can't buy happiness" as just something poor people say/ "real beauty is on the inside" is just something ugly people say

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This is painfully true as I know this personnally. I don't have a degree and even though I am qualified for a certain job, they won't even consider me because of it. There are so many people unemployed now, that when a company is looking at 100 resume's, they have to narrow it down some way so the first thing they do is get rid of the ones that don't have a degree.
yeah it's pretty shitty. A few years ago we hired a new HR director and the first thing on his agenda was to do a background check on everyone and rid the ones in management positions that didn't have a college degree and we're a construction company. Imagine that.

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I got a Bachelor's degree, and am now doing something I don't need one for. Glad I have it though.
You didn't need a degree to hire yourself of course, but don't use the knowledge that was acquired while working towards your degree on a regular basis in your business?

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yeah it's pretty shitty. A few years ago we hired a new HR director and the first thing on his agenda was to do a background check on everyone and rid the ones in management positions that didn't have a college degree and we're a construction company. Imagine that.
I'd have gotten rid of the ones WITH degrees and promoted the people who had been there long enough to know what they are doing and know how crap works and paid them less than the high priced people

The real problem in business today, IMO, is that certain people only tend to focus on their tiny piece in the big picture. The HR guy probably want to go "by the book" as he learned in school, without regard to the brain drain that would result.

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Is this take home or gross? This seems low.
I agree.. lower than I would have expected...

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I'd have gotten rid of the ones WITH degrees and promoted the people who had been there long enough to know what they are doing and know how crap works and paid them less than the high priced people

The real problem in business today, IMO, is that certain people only tend to focus on their tiny piece in the big picture. The HR guy probably want to go "by the book" as he learned in school, without regard to the brain drain that would result.
you should see the cocky fresh out of college fuckheads we're getting lately.

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Is this take home or gross? This seems low.
it's definately gross but on the average across the U.S it's gotta be right. Hell the average person on CLSB makes $150k a year

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Wow. Nobody has selected book smart so far. Buncha blue collar mugs up in this piece.

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I say a little of both. Degrees matter from the standpoint of they can show an employer you have the ability to see something through and keep many doors open for you. On that note there are people who do quite well without a degree but the averages don't lie.

I'm doing something I don't need a degree for and has nothing to do with my degree. But if I choose to leave I'm sure I could possibly stand a better chance at getting certain jobs than someone without a degree.

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Can I have another poll added to this thread? I want to know how many people on CLSB have college degrees.

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Is this take home or gross? This seems low.
Nationwide median for each education level. Includes entry-level positions in po-dunk and the high dollar shit in NYC, also no differentiation for degree type, so the dipshit that got a gender studies degree is included right there with the guy that got a useful, valuable accounting or engineering degree.

So for each one of you overpaid IT types in there, there are probably a dozen Film majors bringing the median down.

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it's definately gross but on the average across the U.S it's gotta be right. Hell the average person on CLSB makes $150k a year
It says right on the chart it's the median not the average. Maybe you need some book smarts.

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It says right on the chart it's the median not the average. Maybe you need some book smarts.
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