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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-05-2004, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
 
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anyone taken their 04' r1 to the strip yet? i took mine to cordova raceway tonight...to my disappointment, i could do no better than 11.0's...reaction times were good, 60-footers sucked, 1/8 mile sucked, etc...good finishing speed of around 140mph...my question is, how on gods green earth do you get this thing moving at the line, without bogging or wheelie-ing? it's like there is no fine line between them...the steep first gear is killing me (i know, but it's just a pride thing here)...i read on another thread that going to a smaller front sprocket on this particullar bike helps a great bit..."opinions"?
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run lke 15 psi in the rear tire and like"stand on the handle bars"put as much weight up as front as you can ...11.0?
wow that makes me feel good bout those 10.80 my 98 zx9 with 30000 miles has been runnin ..but i do have a lil practice good luck on the next time ya go.

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Rev it up to at least 8000RPM and be super, super smooth with the clutch and ride the rear brake to keep the front end down.... that's what DanO told me (a road racer).
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be super, super smooth with the clutch...
that's my biggest downfall...i just get too jittery at the line, but i guess that's where practice comes in...on the other hand, it really wasn't designed to be a dragbike...was it?
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The hardest part is the launch, once you dial it in you should be fine. try working on tire pressure, what rpm to leave the line, maybe 4-8 rpm and rider position. also learn how to feahter out the clutch so you won't wheelie or bog it down.

it's funny how magazines, say how fast bikes are, (read the fine print, they use a pro rider,perfect weather and run at sea level)
don't believe what you read. once you dial it in, it should easily run low to mid 10's.

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i would say two up in the back get some more top end out of it intill you got the launch down! If you gear down its going to be alot a harder to launch off the line. Once you got the launch down drop one tooth in the front!
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The hardest part is the launch, once you dial it in you should be fine. try working on tire pressure, what rpm to leave the line, maybe 4-8 rpm and rider position. also learn how to feahter out the clutch so you won't wheelie or bog it down.

it's funny how magazines, say how fast bikes are, (read the fine print, they use a pro rider,perfect weather and run at sea level)
don't believe what you read. once you dial it in, it should easily run low to mid 10's.

most important, "You ride the bike and don't let the bike ride you"
all, very good input!!! thanx...since then, i have been testing the waters on better clutch release...getting better...damn the mental pressures of the starting tree!!! lol
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Or next time just buy a suzuki!
why would i go from bad, to worse? j/k
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strap a midget (or a small friend) to the front end and just gas it?
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Did ya strap the front suspension down? That helps in keeping the front wheel down a lot.

Twistedspeed - how do ya figure adding teeth to the back will make it wheelie less? :?
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Did ya strap the front suspension down? That helps in keeping the front wheel down a lot.

Twistedspeed - how do ya figure adding teeth to the back will make it wheelie less? :?
YEAH WHAT HE SAID...MORE GEAR = MORE WHEELIES

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Did ya strap the front suspension down? That helps in keeping the front wheel down a lot.

Twistedspeed - how do ya figure adding teeth to the back will make it wheelie less? :?
Please reread what I said! Once you get the launch down go up 2 in the back which will give you more top end speed your times will come down a bit! Once you completely launch the bike good go down 1 in the front and that will make it very aggresive off the line!!
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just lower the bike and go from there

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strap a midget (or a small friend) to the front end and just gas it?
i was talking to some of the other riders, and discussed strapping it down for the next time...
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strapping the front is DAMAGEROUS!!!!!!! Only lower the tire pressure if your spinning the tire. Lowering tire pressure will increase traction but at the expense of rolling resistance which means it will hurt your mile per hour. Key to draggin a short wheel based bike is slipping the clutch. First thing first, never ride through the water. Its up to you weather or not your going do a smoke show. Personally, I do. Then, before you pull up to the line you need to do a "Dry hop". What's a "Dry hop"? A "Dry Hop" is practise start. Get your body over the front end, elbows halfway bent, bring the RPM up to your lanch rpm, bring the clutch out til the bike is just about to move, get ready to through your entire upper body down ward, take a deep breath, focus, gently release the clutch and then pull the clutch back in. What this does it puts you insink with your bike. If your not happy with how you started your launch, back up and do it again. Your bike may react differently on each pass so the "dry hop" tells you EXACTLY how it will launch. Take you time at the starting line. Pull up tl the first set of little yellow lights light up, do everything that you did for you "dry hop", this time as you let your clutch out just to the point where it starts to move is when the bike rolls forward to set off the second set of lights. Watch the each and every light yellow light before the green. When your focused you can see as each light brightens and then dims. As that last yellow dims is when you make your move.

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Part 2- How to determine launch RPM.

The launch RPM is the rpm at which you can hit the gas and it the bike will not bog. If you rolling at 2000 rpm, you hit the gas and the bike bogs, then slow back down the 3000 rpm, and so on and so forth. I was launching my cousins GSXR1000 about 6000. Obviously, if you dump the clutch at 6000rpm from a stand still, you get swatted like a fly!!!!! Which where slipping the clutch comes into play. You use your clutch to control your launch while your rolling the throttle on. If the front starts to lift, release the clutch slower. If you let the rpm drop below the launch rpm it will bog.

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very good advice jeff...but some times ya gotta let some air out of the tire ..i dont think it hurts your top end as much as you think...centrifical force will makethe tire roll like its full of air...especially at high speeds

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excellent input...i never thought of the dry-hop before staging...seen the cars do it, but it never clicked...makes sense though...do you think tire pressure really plays a factor with a track that lays down traction compound? our track does, and i really haven't had any tire spin off the line...i'll 86 the strapping idea...
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strapping is fine just as long its done right! tire pressure is key in traction I run about 9to11 psi depending on how the track is!
The first couple months i was out i didnt even worry about the lights! I wanted to get a 60ft. time down and then worry about running a decent # down the track then i moved on to launching the bike! I started small then moved up as i felt comfortable on the bike!
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Also if you too long of a burnout the tire will get to hot and become slipppery thats what i was doing when i started out!!
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i don't have to worry about that...lol...i always see dollar signs along with burnouts...i'm a wuss...i go around the waterbox, and go stage...i always figured that sporbike tires were sticky enough...
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When you start launching the bike and getting off the line fast you'll want to do the burnouts! Nothing sucks worse then when you sit in line to make a run and the tire spins!!
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well...i guess i better start practicing...lol thanks for all the info...
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easy fix. buy a busa and wheelie bars. happy launching!

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easy fix. buy a busa and wheelie bars. happy launching!
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WTF---how do you find 10 month old threads and start posting in them what an idiot

ha! cause i was bored!!!! let's see some good porn or something getting posted or something damn!! this cold weather bullshit is killing me! fuckers!

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at least he stays on topic
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at least he stays on topic
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