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are there any busa guys here?

looking to find out all i can about extended swing arms IE do you have them made? can you get them how ever long you want?

Are there turbo systems for busa's?

and where are som good drag racing webisites?

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Sky is the limit with Busa's. When I had mine I had a wish list as long as my arm. Numerous different turbo systems available, numerous different arms available, wheels, electronics, nitrous. what every you can think of they have it for the Busa, thats why it's so popular for modding.




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And for buying a swingarm...you can either take yours off and have it extended, or buy one flat out. You can get any length you want, from a 60" wheelbase all the way up to something crazy like 78". The longer you go, the more expensive it is. Then you need a new chain and brake line/arm also.

Or you can just buy the extensions for $300-$400, they come adjustable from 4-6" or 6-8" usually.

And what popped this crazy idea into your head anyway?
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i wish to build a streamliner

so i have decided to do the reasearch and i knew that the busa's were popular for drag racing and they are plentyfull in drag build so i figure i can pic up a race bike for around 3 or 4 grand and continue to mod it for top end

i also know a guy with a few ejectable fuel cells laying around and i think i could make something pretty wicked

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these guys build the fastest Busas there are.

http://www.velocityracing.com/2006.htm

They hold the records, and have built up to 590hp Busas when I was checking into it last year.

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so i figure i can pic up a race bike for around 3 or 4 grand and continue to mod it for top end
Not for 3-4 grand unless it comes without a motor.

You can buy one completely built already with a turbo for around 12-15k.

A longer swingarm is useless for top speed.
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wont a longer wheel base and a rake help it stay stable at higher speeds in a straight line?

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and as for prices i am gonna do this as cheap as possible, and i saw a dratg busa for sale in minnesota this summer for 4 grand, so they are out ther i will just wait and watch for a good deal and then jump on it

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wont a longer wheel base and a rake help it stay stable at higher speeds in a straight line?
Yes but it also adds weight. Most of the big mph bikes use a stock wheelbase. Raking it out is not cheap, either.
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rake=500 dullars

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Just for the frame work. Are you going to tear the whole front end off of the bike yourself?
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yeah, i would be doing most of the labor myself

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No one rakes bikes any more. With the busa if you want and i dont know why u would but the neck just can be raked out without cutting the neck and rewelding it on. Arms are everywhere 600,1k arms they all fit the busa's.
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Let me guess, you just saw 'World's Fastest Indian" and became inspired?

Just kidding.

When asking these kinds of questions, why not search for a forum for salt-flat racers? They'll have the best answers to your questions.

As for a $4k 'busa, the question is, would you really trust a bike like that at 200+mph?
Oh sure, you can get down on it and fix it up for street use, but for putting your life and limbs on the line, you might want to pay a tad more for a less 'abused' machine.

We've got a lot of racers here at CLSB, but not too many streamliner or top-speed guys. Unless you want to count that moron on Lake Shore Drive a few years back with his 160mph CBR600!

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Yes but it also adds weight. Most of the big mph bikes use a stock wheelbase. Raking it out is not cheap, either.
Weight is irrelevant on top speed. It will only slow acceleration. Lowering and stretching a bike for top speed has an effect on aerodynamics and slowing any oscillations of the chassis. The first thing you need to do is figure out what class you want to build a bike for.

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Weight is irrelevant on top speed.
I'm sorry but that is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
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Let me guess, you just saw 'World's Fastest Indian" and became inspired?

Just kidding.

When asking these kinds of questions, why not search for a forum for salt-flat racers? They'll have the best answers to your questions.

As for a $4k 'busa, the question is, would you really trust a bike like that at 200+mph?
Oh sure, you can get down on it and fix it up for street use, but for putting your life and limbs on the line, you might want to pay a tad more for a less 'abused' machine.

We've got a lot of racers here at CLSB, but not too many streamliner or top-speed guys. Unless you want to count that moron on Lake Shore Drive a few years back with his 160mph CBR600!

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as for a 4 k busa all i am expecting to use is the front end, wheels fame and use the motor as a base to rebuild with stroner rods, bigger slugs, a worked head and maybe redo the tranny

the front end will have to be gone through and i really only know that i will have to have a swing arm made for it for the length i am going for

of course new bearings all around

and as for class, little or none

chassis: Streamliner

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engine class: Supercharged Engine: Gasoline

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ah, well, with $4k up front and the additions you're looking at, I'm sure the bike would be safe at the speeds you're hoping to achieve. It sounds like you're serious and I hope you post up photos and descriptions of your progress as this project makes it way to the record books.

I'm sure the mods on here would give you some CLSB stickers that are good for at least 1.5 mph above maximum . . . .
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lol thanks, and i plan on fully documenting it, but this will be a slow process over the next 2 to 3 years

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I'm sorry but that is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
It is a fact, regardless of what you've heard. It takes a minimal amount of horsepower to maintain speed. But it takes a great deal of torque to accelerate it.

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It is a fact, regardless of what you've heard. It takes a minimal amount of horsepower to maintain speed. But it takes a great deal of torque to accelerate it.
Then why can't a turbo diesel semi go 200mph?

I think you're just regurgitating myth after myth in here. I give up.
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i was thinking its more the drag, and friction in moving parts that carry the weight that would keep it from going fast rather than just the weight itself...so a cab cant go that fast because it's big & boxy and it has all that weight on the bearings in the wheels so they take more to spin

So therefore, bc of one of those newtonian laws...all that mass will keep moving, its just the forces acting to move it arent enough to overcome the forces acting to slow it down, so it cant achieve accelerate to a high speed

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http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=2258&z=3

Read that article it will explain alot and has alot of good links.
Also no one extends bikes for top speed. Long bikes keep it from wheelie but also easier to spin the tire.
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Then why can't a turbo diesel semi go 200mph?

I think you're just regurgitating myth after myth in here. I give up.
I thought hp=speed (given how much your machine weighs) and torque is how fast you get there
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I thought hp=speed (given how much your machine weighs) and torque is how fast you get there
Not really.

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I just saw this post since I just got back from vacation but this should be a good start for you to find the parts and the advice you might need. Some of the guys run land speed bikes, others drag race, and some are just insane with 650hp at the rear wheel. But the guy that runs this site also sells most everything you could think of to bling out or build up a busa. http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php
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