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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 06-04-2004, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
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wheelie's too fast

ok so heres the deal i'learned to do the quick up and down wheelies in 1'st damn those are rough i really had to learn the response on the throttle for those. then i moved on to doing the bounce ups in 2nd at 7k rpm it comes up fine and i can ride them out for a while im waiting on learning how to shift while up in the balance point. in 2nd gear the wheelies are getting very highspeed which is making me a little nervous going that fast 70+ i'll get the hang of that in a bit i hope. question of the day is ,does anyone know how todo slow speed wheelies from the light on an r1.

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Very....very....very.....very good throttle control. First gear is so tricky dude. I've seen people do it but I cannot. Nor do I have the balls to sit there and learn.

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i can tell yeah, but i cant do it yet either.

you have to find that balance point "takes balls" cover the rear break "to feather to keep it where ya need it along with the throttle" and then use the rear break to "balance yourself and the bike" which is gonna take time, take balls, and even a few crashes.

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If you have to shift up then your not at the balance point. I'm with you, I'm not gettin them up high enough to keep at a steady speed. Once you get them to the balance point, then you will see that you no longer have to keep speeding up. You should be able to walk them at a steady speed while covering the rear brake.

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do you guys personally, slip the clutch or just crack it open to start off at the light?

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i can only do power wheelies, but i can do them right from a dead stop all the way into 3rd and land it around 100 before i say enough.

in 2nd gear i slip em up.



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1st wear gear.I wish I had R1 I could wheelie in 2nd and 3rd. My 570 lb monster only goes up in 1st second I need to clutch it up , which I don't want to do. it's true you have to have a balance point and great throtle control. I have been only riding my "wheelies" in the first about 30 yards or so.From what people tell me that ride mile long ones the balance point is when you sit and no linger or barely see the road in front of you.
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dman odysseys i wanna do those .hope i get to see you in action this summer. wait you just got your harley now dont you? any plans on getting another rocket?

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i dont have a harley.
i have a zx9r



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If you're doing a sitdown, the balance point is when you're practically staring at the tank.
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if you want to balance them out in 1st you're going to have to clutch them up off of idle. Clutch it up and catch it with the back brake. The key is to lock your wrist (don't let off the gas) then it's all body position and brake control.

Like other people have said if you're at balance point there is no need to shift...

I definitely wouldn't reccommend powering them up in 1st either if you're looking to go any kind of distance. The clutch is way more consistent and you bring it up much faster (which means holding it at a slower speed)

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I see,


I'll never learn to properly wheelie then......

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by GixxerNick
if you want to balance them out in 1st you're going to have to clutch them up off of idle. Clutch it up and catch it with the back brake. The key is to lock your wrist (don't let off the gas) then it's all body position and brake control.

I donno I'm not a wheelie expert but this way sounds too complicated and dangerous.

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Just throwin my 0.02

I just posted a vid for proof....
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yeah its dangerous...so is crossing the street....its like your going to flip yourself, then stop it from flipping, and then balance it like nick said.


what you think that shit is easy?

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exactly, you're gonna clutch it up past BP and catch it with the brake
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and then if your shit is tight, you wont be on your back..lmao!

look at me talk like i know how to do this stuff...lol
i know what to do, just dont have the bike or balls to do it with.



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Clutch it up and catch it with the back brake. The key is to lock your wrist (don't let off the gas) then it's all body position and brake control.



that quote by nick helped a lot almost bucked myself off at first trying to clutch it up though. damn you do need iron balls to do this crap though . now im getting to fully understand the term crotchrocket. the clutch up method is a little faster up off the ground but the key was catching myself the balance point felt like 11:30. thanks guys i think its a matter of practice from here.

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Not like I have a fucking clue on how to do one...To much of a puss I guess.


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hey cheyenne give me some props, remember when we would be side by side 60-70mpr side by side sharing a lane while i was up on 1 wheel.

man we are nuts....lol



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i think i lost my 3rd gear touch tough...i havent praticed much, 1st gear and 2nd no problemo



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Hell I lost my......ummm what am I talkin about I never had it


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It's easy...get a ZX-12R...and shift into first and twist the throttle and up she comes...shift into second, twist the throttle and up she comes. Then shift into third, twist the throttle and up she comes again. See...pretty easy!

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I practiced for a few hours tonight, the security had the night off or something at the spot I go to for once. I think with a little more practice and the sprocket I ordered last week I should be able to start figuring out how to slow this stuff down instead of just powering it out. On a side note, after clutching up 1st for 2 hours straight I figured out how to clutch 2nd consistently every time
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thats cool, good thing i DONT have my bike tonight, it would be twisted right now...ahhhhaha



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My pig of a bike can only get up in first, at about 10MPH, with the use of a clutch. Haven't practiced it enough to find the BP yet. Think It's gonna be easier to find it / control it if I stand with the left foot on the rear peg. Shit is scary though.
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My pig of a bike can only get up in first, at about 10MPH, with the use of a clutch. Haven't practiced it enough to find the BP yet. Think It's gonna be easier to find it / control it if I stand with the left foot on the rear peg. Shit is scary though.

wanna make I bet I can get it up in 2nd and 3rd too?
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wanna make I bet I can get it up in 2nd and 3rd too?
I'll give you 20 bucks if you can clutch it up in 3rd.
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