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2nd gear wheelie victory

well i dont know if u peeps remember my old post " 2nd gear wheelie on 600rr", but i was askin for advice on standin the thing up from second instead of first...peeps gave me lots of advice but i could not and still cannot get the bike to BOUNCE up in second...i was out ridin tonight with a couple of friends and there is this girl on an r6 tryin to wheelie and she asks me for help so i jump on her bike a quickly realize that her bike produces its power in the low rpm's (5k) versus my high rpm's (8k)...so on the way home, im on the highway tryin, once again, to do a bounce up in second...and fail!!! so i decide to get outta my comfort zone and clutch it, but instead of using high rpms like i do on 1st gear wheelies, i decided to go with 5k!! I was so amazed at how, cadillac like, my bike stood up, although i quickly set'r back down due to the shock of it...so i go for it again, and bam, im up there!!! i jus cant beleive how much less i gotta use the brake to keep from loopin, and how much less i gotta play with the throttle...ITS AMAZING my only question is, when i shifted into 3rd bout halfway through the gear, the bike started to progressively wobble...is this due to tire pressure and/or flat spot??? how do i combat wobble on 1 wheel?? and should i use the same technique to do a standup?? i really want to learn a standup with out clutchin it, but if thats the only way...then i guess ill get comfy with clutchin it sittin down first i know this was kinda long but i jus wanted to share my "2ND GEAR WHEELIE VICTORY"

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was this in addison and was the girl's R6 red? I think I was there too....

As for the wobble you're probably just a little under balanced, once it comes up all the way the wobble disappears
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Wobble can also be caused when the front wheel stops spinning, you loose some of the gyro effect.




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Second gear is sooooo much smoother than first. I still rember the feeling the first time I brought it up in second. Big grin under the helmet




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was this in addison and was the girl's R6 red? I think I was there too....

As for the wobble you're probably just a little under balanced, once it comes up all the way the wobble disappears
yeah...we rodee with you guys night b4 last

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was this in addison and was the girl's R6 red? I think I was there too....

As for the wobble you're probably just a little under balanced, once it comes up all the way the wobble disappears
yeah we were there with u peeps night b4 last....i got off work last night and cruised back to the spot, since its right down the strret from where i work

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Wobble can also be caused when the front wheel stops spinning, you loose some of the gyro effect.
gotcha....so you dont think any of it could be due to the flat area in the center of the tire or high tire pressure?? ive read that in some cases peeps lower their tire pressure to help with wobble!!

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lower pressure definatelly helps it from wobbling from side to side.
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lower pressure definatelly helps it from wobbling from side to side.
See, ya learn something new every day. I never knew that. we used to lower our pressure for drag racing to get traction on the slick cicero side streets




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lower pressure definatelly helps it from wobbling from side to side.
how much...im runnin 40psi right now...do u think 30-35psi will work??

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40 is a lot, I run 28 in my gsxr and 18-20 in my f4i
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Ya I'd follow Nicks lead Iwouldnt go lower than 28 or 25 on a street daily ridin bike. The lower pressure can cause excessive heat which can casue tire problems, but like his stunt bike, thats ridden in a different environment and I'm sure that tire is getting destroyed from burnouts anyway so it doesnt matter.




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40 is a lot, I run 28 in my gsxr and 18-20 in my f4i
cool imma drop it to 30 then go from there...thanx alot

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yeah we were there with u peeps night b4 last....i got off work last night and cruised back to the spot, since its right down the strret from where i work
try to keep it chill over there. we had a DuPage Count Sheriff and an Addison cop ask us to keep it down the other night. they were cool and i would like to keep it that way.
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how much...im runnin 40psi right now...do u think 30-35psi will work??
40psi! I wouldnt run that in any condition!

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40psi! I wouldnt run that in any condition!
Unless ya have the Corsas
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Unless ya have the Corsas
even then the sweet spot is more like 36.

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even then the sweet spot is more like 36.

On the track yeah, but on the street I have 40 in my Corsas.

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try to keep it chill over there. we had a DuPage Count Sheriff and an Addison cop ask us to keep it down the other night. they were cool and i would like to keep it that way.
yeah...i know, gixxernick pm'd me with whats goin on

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40psi! I wouldnt run that in any condition!
thats what the guy told me to keep it at (from the shop i bought the bike from)

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On the track yeah, but on the street I have 40 in my Corsas.
wow, i stand corrected! thats some high ass pressure.

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wow, i stand corrected! thats some high ass pressure.
im lost ...r u for real...oor u jus bein a smartass

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Mucho props with the 2nd gear on the 600rr.. i had a hard time trying to torque wheelie it on 1st... let alone on 2nd gear..
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im lost ...r u for real...oor u jus bein a smartass
i think what he means is that he stands corrected, that the proper pressure for street riding with the corsas is 40PSI. And it is higher than other companies' recommended air pressures.

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flipstream - i'll take the giggy 1k for a little spin and get it up for ya
haha i was referring to my 600rr when i had it (its an urban legend that the 600rr's dont like to come up easy, being top heavy and all)... no problems getting up w/ the giggy! pops up like poptarts!

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flipstream - i'll take the giggy 1k for a little spin and get it up for ya
ya know bikes are good for mojos, but i doubt poor flipstream wants to see that, typically smiles or thumbsup are a little more subtle way of communicating

but ya 600s can pop up the wheel no sweat for sure, it's just a matter of throttle/clutch technique and being at decent rpms when the clutch grabs, friend of mine also has an f4i geared -1 ft /+2 rr and pulls it up 4th gear standups

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