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Wheelies 101

First off, it's definitely possible to learn wheelies without crashing as I am living proof, it just depends on how fast you want to learn. If you are impatient pick up a 2nd beater bike and take it to a parking lot, if you learn slow wheelies everything else is easy, I should add that you're most likely gonna drop this bike a couple times so don't use your nice bike. If anyone is interested in that post up, this write-up will explain highway wheelies.

I don't reccommend anyone trying to balance a wheelie without having rear brake control. Yes it's possible but there's a lot more factors that make it much more dangerous (wind, cars, road conditions, average speed that you're going to be traveling at, etc.) With that being said, I don't know of anyone that has crashed doing a wheelie on the street or highway who CAN wheelie (using the rear brake of course). With rear brake control you'll be able to slow way down, speed up, switch lanes, basically everything you can do on two wheelies can be done on one with the use of rear brake.

Before any of this is attempted you should be very comfortable with your bike and it should feel like an extention of your body, something that usually comes after a year or two of riding.

Once you're comfortable with your bike you'll want to start out with your left foot on the left passenger peg, your right foot on the front peg covering the brake. This will feel awkward at first but you'll get use to it. Have the bike in 2nd gear and USE THE CLUTCH, it's much more predictable than powering them up and will also become 2nd nature in time. I'd say somewhere around 45-55mph depending on what size bike. Don't worry about the height of your wheelie concentrate on being SMOOTH and using the rear brake. Practice using the back brake to bring the front end down even when you aren't anywhere near balanced out.

You don't want to chop the throttle shut and push the brake at the same time. Throttle control is very important, as you get comfortable with the rear brake you should clutch the bike up and LOCK YOUR WRIST OUT, meaning- DON'T PLAY WITH THE THROTTLE. You should be clutching the bike up and catching it with the back brake. Then use body position and brake application to balance out. Your throttle hand should be as still as possible.

Some common errors:

-Pay attention to your body position, most people hump the gas tank. You want to be relaxed and off the bike, straighten your legs!

-Weighting the bike: a lot of people will pull or or place more weight on one foot peg or clip-on. Everything should be balanced, there shouldn't be any pulling on the clip-ons or placing more weight on one foot, remember SMOOTH AND RELAXED, not stiff!

-lock that wrist out, don't play the throttle play the brake!

-Don't worry about what RPMs to clutch at, no one that I know can wheel looks down at their gauges before they wheelie. As you practice more you'll get use to engine noise and how much is necessary (which doesn't really matter because if you over clutch you'll be catching it with the back brake anyways)

Another thing I'd like to add is everyone does this different, these are the basics but I don't think any two people wheelie the same way, as you practice you'll find little things that differ that feel comfortable to you.

I think that's about it, good luck and if you kill yourself or wreck your bike it's not my fault
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wait, i guess crashin rogers bike don't count huh

dick! read the post again, you're going to crash doing parking lot speed wheelies, highway speed (50-70) is MUCH easier. I had highway wheelies balanced out and was steering them before I ever tried anything in the parking lot
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Nice writeup Nick I'm going to stickey this thread for future reference

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nonetheless maybe this thread could be stickied, popular question, good advice, oops Crazy beat me to the post cool mang

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bah, i even punched that into word first but i didn't hit space so it didn't come up as wrong. i suck. maybe nick could do a write up on typing and spell check for me????
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or a write-up for how to park a seat stander?
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pffftt, that shits EASY.
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Nice post man. Practice safe ya'll!
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oh well with my one attempt at a serious post
If its ANY consolation, I appreciate the advice.

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Thanks for the advice. One other thing, should one also lower their PSI to something like 18-20, or is this not necessary for high speed wheelies?
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Thanks for the advice. One other thing, should one also lower their PSI to something like 18-20, or is this not necessary for high speed wheelies?
it'll help stability some in those too, the bike may still wiggle kinda easily as you get up near the balance point

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Thanks for the advice. One other thing, should one also lower their PSI to something like 18-20, or is this not necessary for high speed wheelies?
if you let some air out it will stabilize the side-to-side motion a little but if the road you're on is crowned it will be harder to correct and keep the bike going straight.

I usually run 24-28 psi in my back tire for all around riding
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Thanks again, I'll probably work on brake and throttle control for a while until I feel comfortable, then I'll worry about the little tweaks.
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Great post as I am trying to learn to ride a wheelie. NickIF you had mentioned that you were learning on the highway at 60-70 and it was easier than in the parking lot, where should I start, I am getting a real good feel for my bike even though I have been riding for only 5 months. Did someone show you or were you dicking around and figured it out yourself.
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I really do not think I am ready for this because the concept of using the clutch instead of the throttle to maintain the balance seems foreign to me. Must mean I am not ready yet and therefore I will park this info in the back of the old brain for future use. Thanks Nick.

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Interested in learning wheelies. I grew up doing them on motocros bikes and trials bikes... in the dirt... but I have never really spent too much effrot doing it on the street. The thought of dropping a few grand... well, doesn't excite me.

Has anyone heard of http://www.chicagowheelieschool.com/ or of the school called On One Wheel located at http://www.ononewheel.com/

I am thinking about doing either one or both. Getting the wheel up... no problem at any speed on my 12R... keeping it up... well that is another story. I have it up during acceleration, but have never thought of using the rear brake, that makes perfect sense, but I guess I need to borrow that beater bike that you were mentioning.

Is there a group around here that gets together to do stunts? I'd love to come and watch, learn, and perhaps try some things.

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Has anyone heard of http://www.chicagowheelieschool.com/ or of the school called On One Wheel located at http://www.ononewheel.com/

400 bucks for a day, seems a bit steep for me all though they do provide streetbikes so I dont' have to worry about mine. Oh weel fugg it I will learn/try on min
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400 bucks for a day, seems a bit steep for me all though they do provide streetbikes so I dont' have to worry about mine. Oh weel fugg it I will learn/try on min
I figure... not crashing my bike... professional (who knows?) training in a legal relatively controlled environment... sounds good to me. I am scehduled to do the OnOneWheel school in Vegas in November, but if I could learn here, that would be cheaper and easier.

Either way, doing this on a sportbike, compared to doing it on a motocross bike... HUGE difference! No one I ride with knows how to stunt, so I need some exposure, that would be the best part of it.

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