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need help on wheelies

I have a yamaha yzf 600r and i can clutch wheelie it in first but i was wondering if it is possible to bring it up in 2nd gear
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well i got my knee down BUT, i need a new side panel
 
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do u think my bike has enough power
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I would buy a 70 tooth rear sprocket ... It will feel like your in first every gear.

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Yes of course it does. You probably can just power it. lean back and forget about the clutch. Help it out with your hands by pulling it up
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if i buy a new sprocket how much speed will i lose
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You'll probably top out at around 60 - 70 mph. I would reccomend practice more on power wheelies instead of clutch wheelies. Youll learn more about throttle control.

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dude my bike is a 97 i dont think it will come up without the clutch in 2nd gear
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dude my bike is a 97 i dont think it will come up without the clutch in 2nd gear

With a 70 tooth rear sprocket it will, probably even 4th gear. How long have you been practicing wheelies? If you want to keep your stock sprockets and try to pick it up in second I would say good luck.. Probably not going to happen.

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It'll come up with the right sprockets, no matter how big a dog it is (not that yours is)

The big question of course... is when do we get the Wheelie Lessons? You know, kinda like Ken is teaching folks how to ride normally this coming weekend? LOL

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I think we should start a free wheelie class for all of CLSB.

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I'm interested! Always wanted to learn but scared of loopin' it!

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Hey, I'd be happy to come. What we need of course is someone with some good skills... and a safe place to try it out.

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Try the wheelie machine. Seen it on 2 wheel tuesday. Bike is on rollers and you can pop wheelies without going anywhere
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Great thread John, I read that before. I'd just rather go out with people who know what they are doing. Although, I have already been trying a lot of what the thread said.

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did u guys buy differnt sprockets for your bikes
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dude, don't go to a 70 tooth sprocket, I was quite sure he was kidding.

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70 tooth? I can wheelie a bicycle with it.
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A '98 YZF600R was my first bike. I was never able to power it up, not even in first gear. I always used the clutch. In my opinion, it's not a good bike to learn wheelies on. Then again, I'm much much better now.

...anyway +1 Fully about powering it up and learning throttle control better. Clutching can be pretty unpredictable, IMO.

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Hey, I'd be happy to come. What we need of course is someone with some good skills... and a safe place to try it out.
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have a 1997 yzf 600r what would be a good sprocket setup for me to be able to do good wheelis in 2nd gear, and not lose a lot of my top end speed

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right now i have a 47 tooth sprocket
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How are your wheelies in first , Can you bring the bike up and coast it all way till your out of Rpms? Or are they choppy and unsteady?

I would go with - 1 in the front , + 2 or 3 in the rear. It wont affect your top end too much and it should come up in first with throttle Check and see what others have done.

(Practice somewhere safe and with others. A camera always helps because you see what your doing wrong later on. Also remember I wouldnt reccomend anyone learn how to do wheelies but If I was to learn I would do this)

Practice picking up your bike little by little with throttle only and releasing it once it comes up. This way you comfortable with the bike jumping up at slow speeds and get the feel of the bike coming down. After a couple thousands of those youll get a few perfect ones and get very comfortable with the bike and being on one wheel. Forget about clutching and using the rear brake use all your focus on your wheelie.. practice Bringing it up and releasing the throttle smoothly. Being worried about clutching it up and covering the rear brake is too many things to worry about and makes you nervous. Remember if you can still see the road ahead your not high enough. Once your comfortable start going higher and higher and releasing the throttle. I pick my bike up at 12oclock and release the throttle and the bike always comes down. Now combine what youve learned. Do this until you can Bring the bike up in first and coast it all the way till your out of rpms.

(Assuming your a master in first gear. 1. Picking the bike up to your balance point. 2.Coasting it smoothly until your out of rpms 3. Releasing the throttle slowly to bring the bike down.)

I would then start practice on shifting...?? Yes shifting If your ready to go the distance with your wheelie practice powershifting. I bring my bike up at its balance point and immediatley shift to second. Now I just eliminated the clutch , rear brake, and allready shifted so now I focused on my wheelie going the distance. Dont practice powershifting from first to second on a wheelie unless your an expert on powershifting in general. If you arent then stop doing wheelies and learn to shift without using the clutch. You dont want to be on one wheel and practice powershifting. 1.Because if you dont powershift right and stay in first thinking you shifted to second..The bike will become very unstable and dangerous. 2. Youll Hit it harder this time and actually shift to nuetral making really loud noises and the bike will come down. Powrshifting is basically Roll out of first till your redlined Between 7k - 11k Rpms depending on your bike. Release the throttle and shift .. I mean Im talking immediatley after you release the throttle hit your shifter in second.. Im not an expert in powershifting so learn that somewhere else .. Easy right I practiced thousands of powershifts and small first gear throttle wheelies and only a few where perfect. Took me 2 years to wheelie in 2nd and coast to Mexico. .

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power wheelies are garbage. Go check out how the real stunt guys do it, you'll get the best pointers there.
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Your bike will wheelie if you have the right technique. I seen a guy dragging the tail on a 250 Ninja with stock gearing. Practice, practice, practice.

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power wheelies are garbage. Go check out how the real stunt guys do it, you'll get the best pointers there.
Im just giving the guy advice if he was just learning wheelies. I dont reccomend Clutch wheelies and covering the rear brake until you master power wheelies. Once youve mastered power wheelies youll be an expert in throttle control. Plus you have a less chance in crashing. I Clutch my wheelies to bring it up from a complete stop and roll it at 10 - 15mph... Why can I do this because I practiced many power wheelies in first.

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